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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9502723" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Yeah, but that toolkit only matters if you have a player capable of planning for the contingencies needed to make use of it. And more often than not... I suspect most tables won't actually have a spell prepared to cover those contingencies because the caster player didn't figure out the action they were going to need. And even for those times when a spell is in fact prepared... there's no guarantee the player is going to know when or how best to use it.</p><p></p><p>More often than not, all this talk about casters being "overpowered" comes from people suggesting it with 'perfect information'. That the needed <em>Knock</em> or <em>See Invisibility</em> or <em>Phantasmal Terrain</em> or <em>Enhance Ability</em> or whatever other spell is going to needed at that moment in time is going to be on hand and having been prepared. But that doesn't really happen all that much. Players in the moment just don't have that perfect information. Thus problems just get solved by all the players together working as a group, not because a single character class has all the answers.</p><p></p><p>If any individual DM sees an issue at their table with a really skilled player that plays a Wizard all the time and is able to solve every issue on their own and never shares the spotlight and the other players are becoming disheartened... then sure, that DM can figure out what might need to happen for their table. But there's no need for some generalized "solution" for people to come up with for ALL tables, because those general solutions just aren't useful. After all... we've had an entire decade of 5E with DMs thinking this spellcaster thing was a problem and ten years of generic "solutions" being suggested and thrown out there... and yet none of them seem be worth anything because DMs are <em>still </em>looking for more solutions to this supposed problem. So maybe universal rules just aren't worth it? As a DM, target your specific needs for your table and stop concerning yourself with anyone else's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9502723, member: 7006"] Yeah, but that toolkit only matters if you have a player capable of planning for the contingencies needed to make use of it. And more often than not... I suspect most tables won't actually have a spell prepared to cover those contingencies because the caster player didn't figure out the action they were going to need. And even for those times when a spell is in fact prepared... there's no guarantee the player is going to know when or how best to use it. More often than not, all this talk about casters being "overpowered" comes from people suggesting it with 'perfect information'. That the needed [I]Knock[/I] or [I]See Invisibility[/I] or [I]Phantasmal Terrain[/I] or [I]Enhance Ability[/I] or whatever other spell is going to needed at that moment in time is going to be on hand and having been prepared. But that doesn't really happen all that much. Players in the moment just don't have that perfect information. Thus problems just get solved by all the players together working as a group, not because a single character class has all the answers. If any individual DM sees an issue at their table with a really skilled player that plays a Wizard all the time and is able to solve every issue on their own and never shares the spotlight and the other players are becoming disheartened... then sure, that DM can figure out what might need to happen for their table. But there's no need for some generalized "solution" for people to come up with for ALL tables, because those general solutions just aren't useful. After all... we've had an entire decade of 5E with DMs thinking this spellcaster thing was a problem and ten years of generic "solutions" being suggested and thrown out there... and yet none of them seem be worth anything because DMs are [I]still [/I]looking for more solutions to this supposed problem. So maybe universal rules just aren't worth it? As a DM, target your specific needs for your table and stop concerning yourself with anyone else's. [/QUOTE]
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