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<blockquote data-quote="takasi" data-source="post: 4488980" data-attributes="member: 20194"><p>There's no right or wrong way here, there are only preferences. However, it's incredibly difficult to create a campaign with both preferences. </p><p></p><p>Let's say one person wants to play an everyman villager who found a strange arrow one day. He spends years carrying it around until one day his wife dies of the flu, he leaves his village and heads out to find the man who shot that arrow. He's built a simple fighter, but he's put a lot of backstory and thought into his character. </p><p></p><p>Another person has watched the movie Ninja Scroll and is inspired by a rocklike creature in the movie. He wants to play a character who has those powers, so he creates a goliath ninja/duskblade. He too comes up with an interesting backstory that involves revenge against an ogre mage.</p><p></p><p>While it's possible to satisfy these two players, sometimes if you try to please everyone you please no one. The same is true with a game system. 3.5 and prior had such a strange mix of the mundane and the fantastic that you had to do a lot of work just to explain what was and wasn't allowed in your game. With 4th edition it's very clear from the onset that using the default rules you're getting high fantasy and high powered action adventure. It does what it sets out to do very well.</p><p></p><p>Now this doesn't mean the mechanics don't allow for low powered campaigns. I'm sure we'll see more from 3PP, and at some point Wizards will probably release a 4E Greyhawk and show how it can be done too. But like a DM making a campaign, I think it's best to present a default campaign setting as either high or low. Mixing the two causes even more problems for the DM down the road as different types of players are attracted to the 'same' game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takasi, post: 4488980, member: 20194"] There's no right or wrong way here, there are only preferences. However, it's incredibly difficult to create a campaign with both preferences. Let's say one person wants to play an everyman villager who found a strange arrow one day. He spends years carrying it around until one day his wife dies of the flu, he leaves his village and heads out to find the man who shot that arrow. He's built a simple fighter, but he's put a lot of backstory and thought into his character. Another person has watched the movie Ninja Scroll and is inspired by a rocklike creature in the movie. He wants to play a character who has those powers, so he creates a goliath ninja/duskblade. He too comes up with an interesting backstory that involves revenge against an ogre mage. While it's possible to satisfy these two players, sometimes if you try to please everyone you please no one. The same is true with a game system. 3.5 and prior had such a strange mix of the mundane and the fantastic that you had to do a lot of work just to explain what was and wasn't allowed in your game. With 4th edition it's very clear from the onset that using the default rules you're getting high fantasy and high powered action adventure. It does what it sets out to do very well. Now this doesn't mean the mechanics don't allow for low powered campaigns. I'm sure we'll see more from 3PP, and at some point Wizards will probably release a 4E Greyhawk and show how it can be done too. But like a DM making a campaign, I think it's best to present a default campaign setting as either high or low. Mixing the two causes even more problems for the DM down the road as different types of players are attracted to the 'same' game. [/QUOTE]
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