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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zeromaru X" data-source="post: 9529911" data-attributes="member: 65487">On their own time, with their own process. By the time they achieve Nirvana, we current humans would have been there for a whole Mahakalpa.Good, when it falls from its own standards, is not Good anymore. That's the point I arguing about: for Muscular Neutrality to work, we need to transform Good into something else that is not Good. We need to transform Good into a force that can be just named Evil 2.0 and be done with it.If we have Good as Actually Good, the Muscular Neutrality doesn't work as intended, as the Neutrality end up as a force that prefers to join forces with Evil (and so, its not neutral anymore as it took a side) so people cannot experience ultimate Good for just its own selfish reasons.So, this whole experiment has already failed. But you can't blame the experiment, as it was done using a failed concept as its basis to begin with (the Gygaxian Alignments). The only way this experiment can work is if the muscular neutrals are just people following a philosophy rather than a cosmic force trying to enforce cosmic balance.Well, no. It can't be inherently just one thing when there are other things influencing as well. There are five forces influencing life, after all (Good, Evil, Law, Chaos and Neutrality).The natural cycle is either independent of Good and Evil, or dependent of more than just Good and Evil (like Law and Chaos). Either way, how it ends is something that Good could not achieve on its own.</blockquote>

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