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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 9538729" data-attributes="member: 42856">I think his point is that if one NEEDS to be altruist to be Good, and that Good can achieve a total victory so that everyone is Good, THEN there is no way for him to be not-altruist in the Good the society. Which means he has no possibility to make the moral choice of not being altruist. He's effectively either brainwashed into being altruistic (and no longer being able to concieve being selfish) or forced into servitude by having no freedom not to be altruistic. If he could be allowed not to be altruist, in other words as you put it "willingly choose not to pursue that goal", then Good wouldn't have an absolute victory. Non-Good people would still abound.The OP later corrected what "Good victory" meant, which lead me to consider that in this case, Good can't act against Evil, which could be a valid reason for Muscular Neutral to oppose Good (when they think Evil needs to be countered using methods that could involve harming and oppressing them into compliance).Another conundrum could be that if being altruistic is the key to enter the Good afterlife (metaphysical Tahiti), and any other solution means going to metaphysical Antarctica, then people giving their riches or lives for other aren't altruistic, they are maximizing their self-interest by getting their one-way ticket to Tahiti. Which is the exact opposite of altruism. So sacrificing your life to save a fellow human would be... the epitome of selfishness.</blockquote>

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