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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9539780" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>... So I feel like this is a HUGELY problematic statement, and I'm not equipped to unpack that so let's just throw out the suitcase.</p><p></p><p>So let's touch on this one: </p><p></p><p>1) Why is there a fine? What good does a fine do for anyone? What good does punishing the builder do? Or is it just because we've been raised to expect punishment for misdeeds and mistakes?</p><p>2) Why doesn't he have support? It's a community of good people. That's altruistic, kind, caring. People support each other in the modern day when there is a loss. Why would that not happen in a world where only good exists? In a society that is good, people would see him struggling, and seek to get him the support he needs (Whether they can personally provide it or help him get professional support).</p><p>3) Why doesn't the good man who lost his family see that it was an accident and thus place blame? Is it because we're culturally pre-disposed to seeking someone to blame? In Spanish "Timmy broke the table" is a grammatically weird sentence and "The table broke" is a grammatically normal one. Would we have the same expectation of blame if our culture didn't value revenge?</p><p></p><p>Now imagine a society where people with C-PTSD, and all other forms of PTSD, and all other neurodivergences, get the love and support they need to heal, instead of a world of goodness where somehow this one example of casual callous cruelty is just allowed to fester.</p><p></p><p>What black magic? It's gone. All the evil is gone.</p><p></p><p>This is like saying "In a world where there are no guns, a man shoots his neighbor with a Remington 30/30"</p><p></p><p>Tragedies happen. But not every tragedy leads to people committing war crimes.</p><p></p><p>There's a lot of off-ramps between A and Z that make it a -very- bumpy slope, rather than a slippery one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 9539780, member: 6796468"] ... So I feel like this is a HUGELY problematic statement, and I'm not equipped to unpack that so let's just throw out the suitcase. So let's touch on this one: 1) Why is there a fine? What good does a fine do for anyone? What good does punishing the builder do? Or is it just because we've been raised to expect punishment for misdeeds and mistakes? 2) Why doesn't he have support? It's a community of good people. That's altruistic, kind, caring. People support each other in the modern day when there is a loss. Why would that not happen in a world where only good exists? In a society that is good, people would see him struggling, and seek to get him the support he needs (Whether they can personally provide it or help him get professional support). 3) Why doesn't the good man who lost his family see that it was an accident and thus place blame? Is it because we're culturally pre-disposed to seeking someone to blame? In Spanish "Timmy broke the table" is a grammatically weird sentence and "The table broke" is a grammatically normal one. Would we have the same expectation of blame if our culture didn't value revenge? Now imagine a society where people with C-PTSD, and all other forms of PTSD, and all other neurodivergences, get the love and support they need to heal, instead of a world of goodness where somehow this one example of casual callous cruelty is just allowed to fester. What black magic? It's gone. All the evil is gone. This is like saying "In a world where there are no guns, a man shoots his neighbor with a Remington 30/30" Tragedies happen. But not every tragedy leads to people committing war crimes. There's a lot of off-ramps between A and Z that make it a -very- bumpy slope, rather than a slippery one. [/QUOTE]
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