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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6653742" data-attributes="member: 2525">I keep hearing about this middle ground implying we are not currently at a middle ground.&nbsp; But...we are.&nbsp; In the first year we will have (at least) three core books, a starter set, three hardback huge adventures, free player expansions for the three hardback adventures, many UA articles with experimental rules, Dragon+, a ton of adventure material and support for Adventurer's League, and a DMs screen.&nbsp; That's not counting things like Fantasy Grounds, the video game announcements, etc.. along with tons of third party material.&nbsp; That's a middle ground.&nbsp; It's just not the middle ground YOU want, but that's different from it not being a middle ground.&nbsp; It's a lot more than we got with some prior editions of the game at this point in the edition cycle.&nbsp; All these claims of middle ground are just really &quot;I want more&quot; or &quot;I want different&quot;.&nbsp; Neither of which is really &quot;I want a middle ground&quot; - instead they are claims that could be made regardless of the quantity of material.&nbsp; We HAVE a middle ground.You know I can't confirm it, but this FEELS like more stuff than we had in the first year of 3.0e.&nbsp; I wonder if others can confirm or deny that?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6653742, member: 2525"] I keep hearing about this middle ground implying we are not currently at a middle ground. But...we are. In the first year we will have (at least) three core books, a starter set, three hardback huge adventures, free player expansions for the three hardback adventures, many UA articles with experimental rules, Dragon+, a ton of adventure material and support for Adventurer's League, and a DMs screen. That's not counting things like Fantasy Grounds, the video game announcements, etc.. along with tons of third party material. That's a middle ground. It's just not the middle ground YOU want, but that's different from it not being a middle ground. It's a lot more than we got with some prior editions of the game at this point in the edition cycle. All these claims of middle ground are just really "I want more" or "I want different". Neither of which is really "I want a middle ground" - instead they are claims that could be made regardless of the quantity of material. We HAVE a middle ground. You know I can't confirm it, but this FEELS like more stuff than we had in the first year of 3.0e. I wonder if others can confirm or deny that? [/QUOTE]

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