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<blockquote data-quote="WarlockLord" data-source="post: 5975795" data-attributes="member: 40098"><p>Might as well throw incantatrix persist into the mix. So the dragon and the vampire don't get to cast spells at the wizard because, you know, he's persisting all this crap. 24 hour displacement makes up for a lot...</p><p></p><p>Or he could just cast before the fight. Like before he enters the room, or sees the vampire on a dragon on the horizon or whatever. But of course, I'm sure you will shift the goalposts again with some new fact like the dragon and vampire being immediately teleported right next to the wizard by Space Plot Gods of Bull and of course the wizard has no prep time.</p><p></p><p>Plus misdirection and rope trick for not dying. And familiars for night watch.</p><p></p><p>And yes, you are shifting the goal posts. First it was "there's no way a lone mid-level wizard can beat a dragon and a vampire," then it was "well not while getting this magic item that I added to the plot," and "well, he can't stop them from stealing the magic item while beating them in combat at the same time."</p><p></p><p>I'm not even sure how the hell the vampire wizard is teleporting if he and the dragon are part of a EL 11 encounter. That would be 2 CR 9s. Vampires are 2 CRs above the base critter, so a 7th-level vamp wizard and a CR 9 dragon. Have you noticed 7th level wizards can't teleport yet? Or call efreet? And no, they don't have as many items or incantatrix silliness because a) you need to have 3 levels in incantatrix to persist spells and b)NPCs get far less wealth than PCs.</p><p></p><p>And I'm forced to question the efficacy of your team when if the vamp had been smarter, he'd be running stinking cloud and hold person rather than fireball so he could disable those team members. Such as sorcerors and rogues with poor fort saves. But, hey, um, teamwork.</p><p></p><p>As for spells per day, depends on the wizard. A focused specialist can have as many as a sorceror. He can acquire info about what spells to use via divination, or just use one of the many builds that let him cast spontaneously.</p><p></p><p>Oh, by the way, a dragon really won't "keep the wizard busy."</p><p></p><p><a href="http://dndtools.eu/spells/frostburn--68/shivering-touch--1291/" target="_blank">Shivering Touch – Spell – D&D Tools</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WarlockLord, post: 5975795, member: 40098"] Might as well throw incantatrix persist into the mix. So the dragon and the vampire don't get to cast spells at the wizard because, you know, he's persisting all this crap. 24 hour displacement makes up for a lot... Or he could just cast before the fight. Like before he enters the room, or sees the vampire on a dragon on the horizon or whatever. But of course, I'm sure you will shift the goalposts again with some new fact like the dragon and vampire being immediately teleported right next to the wizard by Space Plot Gods of Bull and of course the wizard has no prep time. Plus misdirection and rope trick for not dying. And familiars for night watch. And yes, you are shifting the goal posts. First it was "there's no way a lone mid-level wizard can beat a dragon and a vampire," then it was "well not while getting this magic item that I added to the plot," and "well, he can't stop them from stealing the magic item while beating them in combat at the same time." I'm not even sure how the hell the vampire wizard is teleporting if he and the dragon are part of a EL 11 encounter. That would be 2 CR 9s. Vampires are 2 CRs above the base critter, so a 7th-level vamp wizard and a CR 9 dragon. Have you noticed 7th level wizards can't teleport yet? Or call efreet? And no, they don't have as many items or incantatrix silliness because a) you need to have 3 levels in incantatrix to persist spells and b)NPCs get far less wealth than PCs. And I'm forced to question the efficacy of your team when if the vamp had been smarter, he'd be running stinking cloud and hold person rather than fireball so he could disable those team members. Such as sorcerors and rogues with poor fort saves. But, hey, um, teamwork. As for spells per day, depends on the wizard. A focused specialist can have as many as a sorceror. He can acquire info about what spells to use via divination, or just use one of the many builds that let him cast spontaneously. Oh, by the way, a dragon really won't "keep the wizard busy." [url=http://dndtools.eu/spells/frostburn--68/shivering-touch--1291/]Shivering Touch – Spell – D&D Tools[/url] [/QUOTE]
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