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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Valiantheart" data-source="post: 1323714" data-attributes="member: 10165">An "accurate" conversion of a character no one will be able to play and that is useless in virtually all M&M games unless they are playing DBZ style.No the logic is completely flawed.  You are making character conversions based on a rule system.  A rules system which you break repeatedly.  This rule system indicates that powers beyond 20th level represent "Truly Cosmic Levels of Power" page 21.By the way PL 15 Magneto can move 819.2 tons with his magnetism or 3276 tons by using extra effort.  He might not be able to levitate Asteroid M but he cant lift ships out of the water.No this is your exact "flawless" logic.  I just read a comic where Conan defeated an army of a ten thousand men bare handed, naked with one arm bound behind him.  After that he went on to out wrestle Krom and sleep with 500 virgins.  I didnt set out to make him PL 40 he just arrived that way.  It was the only way I could possible design him where he could do everything he could in the comic.Your argument is like saying well D&D has dragons and their stronger than level 20.  That must mean I can do the same with my characters.There is one published character beyond 20th level in all of the M&M products.  Omega the ruler of the Terminus is PL24.  Omega is supposed to represent a Darkseid/Thanos character of Cosmic Levels of power.  He is a universe level threat and yet he still doesnt have any powers that exceed PL 20.I never said characters couldnt go beyond 20th level, but only characters who are above and beyond normal boundries.  These are beings with world shattering power.  Not a guy in an Iron suit (PL 25?) or that can lift things made of metal.There is no reason to be patronizing.  I already understand your "theory" and I still stand by my statement that characters who ignore the rule set limitations upon which they are based to simulate some type of "real" power level are useless to anyone trying to learn to create characters for themselves.</blockquote>

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