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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dvvega" data-source="post: 1819138" data-attributes="member: 524">It's extremely similar to the MERP language system, and indirectly the Rolemaster one.I have a couple of issues with it. For example rank 1 is completely adequate for most adventuring groups. Why? Because a DM is not going to keep up with trying to find a distinction between basic conversation and otherwise.For example: talking to the king they use Rank 1 in a language, however they have Diplomacy 8. Are you going to say they can't talk to the king?It introduces a little extra work for the DM, but I guess that can be ignored.The second issue is that 4 ranks is the equivalent of what characters have with Speak Language - ability to fully communicate without synergy bonuses. An average character with a +0 int modifier would know his base language fully - not a problem with Humans (2 default ranks + 2 bonus points). What about demi-humans? They get Common as well in the standard system (don't they?). Even if you said okay KC(Common) 2 for demi-humans, an average joe wouldn't attain the same level of skill as they do now.Of course this could very well be your intent, to limit knowledge of language to a great degree.The last point is the 5 rank thing. Granted once they hit 5 they're a linguistic expert, and there is no reason to add to their language skill. However the old system allowed the spending of 2 skill points (1 if you're a bard) to gain a new language at rank 4. Now you're asking them to spend 1 to get basics (see first point) and then another 3 to match their d20 standard ability.What happens to characters like my Fighter who would buy a language at every second level because he was a mercenary for hire who would work for anyone who could pay? He valued language highly. I couldn't even come near my linguistic skills with this system.The bypassing a racial limitation on a prestige class is an interesting thing, however if you set it at 15 ranks, then most prestige classes will be quite neutered for non-members of that race, since the standard 3+level restriction on class skills would make this occur only at 12th level. So 13th would be the first point I would racially qualify for the PrC and thus only attain 7 levels ignoring Epic. If it wasn't a class skill then forget it completely.Instead of ranks, you could possibly go for Knowledge checks. So I attempt to use/read/communicate with KC(dwarf), each rank is a DC (5/rank? 5 + 2 per rank thereafter?) and that indicates what I achieve at that moment.To bypass a racial limitation on a PrC it would be DC 25 or higher and if I fail I cannot attempt it again until I have added at least 1 skill point to the KC. This would be like the Dwarf Committee for non-standard Defenders saying" "we've reviewed your application, and indeed you are an impressive candidate, however we regret to inform you that we are unable to grant you access to the training school at this time. You are welcome to apply next year. Please understand that we are an Equal Employment Opportunity group and that this rejection in no way conveys any feeling of animosity to your race, and its lack of dwarfness."I guess I've thought too much about this huh? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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