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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 870689" data-attributes="member: 7211">Sorry, I never fully wrote-up Stealth Casting the way I should have.Stealth casting: An arcane trickster may forgoe the level adjustment associated with the feats Still Spell or Silend Spell (if the arcane trickster has the feat) a number of times per day equal to their arcane trickster level + their main spellcasting ability modifier. Using this ability does not increase the spell-casting time if you are a spontaneous caster. It requires 1 use to Still or Silent a spell, or 3 uses to Still and Silent a spell. Casters who prepare spells can therefore prepare spells without adjusting the level, and spontaneous casters must keep track of these uses per day.For instance, a wizard may prepare a Stilled Silent Dimension Door spell as a 4th level spell, using 3 stealth casting uses. He may also prepare it as a 5th level spell, using 1 use, or if he does not wish to use stealth casting, as a 6th level spell. A sorceror may modify her spells on the fly, but as she uses more spells it will be tricky to decide when to use them.Further in the wiz vs sor debate, dont forget that the wizard can take Still and Silent with his bonus feats, whereas a sorceror must use her character feats. Also, concerning the Arcane Armor Proficiency, since neither rogues nor wizards have medium armor proficiency, it seems out of place, although it may be nice for a bard.As far as whether its balanced? I think so. It is better than taking 10wiz/10rog levels or 10sor/10rog levels. Also as I showed in my post above, it provides compelling reasons to go "all the way" or to dip in for a few levels. Make sure to point out some of the things going on under the hood (more max skills, while having less skills total, means the ones you use are more powerful), better HD, better saves. I'd say thats the way to go if you dont want to give casting every level.Technik</blockquote>

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