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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5639091" data-attributes="member: 50895">The discussion was only about the size of the crew of a ship. I even agreed with the OP that a caravel was appropriate with the size of crew he used in his game, but felt that caravel was a bit small for ocean going ventures. That's got nothing to do with guns or how a ship is armed. Now referring to a SotL was just for reference on size of crew. Whether he uses, archers, ballistae, cannons, or laser beams certainly isn't part of the discussion and why you're bringing up I can't really say. The SotL was just my frame of reference on size of vessels, having no other concerns regarding the technology on board a ship - this isn't what the discussion is about. I've used ship technology in games once in 30 years of gaming and even then, it was small issue. The term/phrase SotL refers to the existing main ships of a navy, in whichever period is being discussed. So its an appropriate term for the old Spanish explorers, the Spanish Main or a modern navy depending on which period is being discussed. It's not referring to just modern navies. I mentioned a Brigatine in one of my adventures. Brigatines are ships that were part of the world's navies since the 16th century (which is fairly close to a caravel using naval time period - a difference of 50 years?). Really do we even know if the OP's comparative time frame as medieval, renaissance or any other specific naval period. We don't. I'm not trying to make assumptions here. In a possible future adventure with my Kaidan setting, I was thinking of including a Japanese Red Seal ship, which is a cool bastardization between a Spanish Galleon and an oriental junk which saw use just between the time Portuguese having arrived in Japan, and Japan closing its borders - seeing use for perhaps 40 years. In the end this discussion is going a bit farther then the intent of the thread, so I'm stopping right here. I think the OP got his answer - that's the only important thing (and its not altering how he played his game, as he isn't playing magic navy anymore - his campaign is over.) In your games, use whatever ship timeframe and technology that let's you have the most fun. Historical accuracy was never the issue, my point was only seaworthiness of small vessels versus ocean going craft. Why I need to argue with you about it, I don't know (nor truly care - its not that big an issue).</blockquote>

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