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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 3675673" data-attributes="member: 94"><p>Wow, what a great thread. </p><p></p><p>(Come on, pogre, you should point me to these when they come up.)</p><p></p><p>I am not a painter anywhere in the mold of pogre. I paint to play, which means I paint for speed. I consider myself a very good speed painter. (I can typically paint a 1500-point army in two weekends.)</p><p></p><p>In the evolution of my painting I started with GW's Chestnut Wash and I have probably gone through more bottles of that than even White or Black base coat. (Considering how I clean my brushes that probably means I've ingested an ounce or two of ink...)</p><p></p><p>I discovered very early on that Chestnut Wash improves almost any figure, which I think is confirmed somewhat by the brown stains being suggested in this thread.</p><p></p><p>I used the GW inks in general with a very heavy brush to cheat all my shadows, and a really amateur drybrush afterwards (usually just with white) to pick out highlights.</p><p></p><p>A few years ago (back when I was still painting regularly) I discovered WonderWash which is also a really great cheat. It's just black ink, water, and a drop of dish detergent, if I am not mistaken. (The detergent helps the water dry evenly without puddling-- in theory. I think. The detergent changes the cohesive properties of the mix, somehow.)</p><p></p><p>I used a really heavy brush with WonderWash and went through bottles and bottles of it-- so much so that if I had been thinking I could have very well combined them all in a single container and gone straight to dipping.</p><p></p><p>Which brings me to a few questions for folks who know a bit more about the chemistry behind the washes and the stains.</p><p></p><p>1) Would a water-based stain dry more evenly (with fewer puddles)?</p><p></p><p>2) Would a water-based stain <em>with a mixture of detergent</em> in the vein of WonderWash work better?</p><p></p><p>3) Even just using the basic stains folks have been using here, do you recommend picking out details like eyes, claws, and teeth <strong>after</strong> the dip-- or will the stain repel the paint? Or do you not really need to do eyes at all? I have to imagine that the eye sockets will pretty much suck the stain right in.</p><p></p><p>This thread actually has me itching to paint again! I have a box of 20 or 30 mummies that's been sitting around for ages unpainted, I bet I could get them all done in an hour. =)</p><p></p><p>EDIT</p><p>Interesting:</p><p><a href="http://armypainter.fanatic.dk/" target="_blank">http://armypainter.fanatic.dk/</a></p><p></p><p>All of the links under the Union Jack open PDF files like this one:</p><p><a href="http://armypainter.fanatic.dk/UserFiles/File/UK_Q&A.pdf" target="_blank">http://armypainter.fanatic.dk/UserFiles/File/UK_Q&A.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 3675673, member: 94"] Wow, what a great thread. (Come on, pogre, you should point me to these when they come up.) I am not a painter anywhere in the mold of pogre. I paint to play, which means I paint for speed. I consider myself a very good speed painter. (I can typically paint a 1500-point army in two weekends.) In the evolution of my painting I started with GW's Chestnut Wash and I have probably gone through more bottles of that than even White or Black base coat. (Considering how I clean my brushes that probably means I've ingested an ounce or two of ink...) I discovered very early on that Chestnut Wash improves almost any figure, which I think is confirmed somewhat by the brown stains being suggested in this thread. I used the GW inks in general with a very heavy brush to cheat all my shadows, and a really amateur drybrush afterwards (usually just with white) to pick out highlights. A few years ago (back when I was still painting regularly) I discovered WonderWash which is also a really great cheat. It's just black ink, water, and a drop of dish detergent, if I am not mistaken. (The detergent helps the water dry evenly without puddling-- in theory. I think. The detergent changes the cohesive properties of the mix, somehow.) I used a really heavy brush with WonderWash and went through bottles and bottles of it-- so much so that if I had been thinking I could have very well combined them all in a single container and gone straight to dipping. Which brings me to a few questions for folks who know a bit more about the chemistry behind the washes and the stains. 1) Would a water-based stain dry more evenly (with fewer puddles)? 2) Would a water-based stain [i]with a mixture of detergent[/i] in the vein of WonderWash work better? 3) Even just using the basic stains folks have been using here, do you recommend picking out details like eyes, claws, and teeth [b]after[/b] the dip-- or will the stain repel the paint? Or do you not really need to do eyes at all? I have to imagine that the eye sockets will pretty much suck the stain right in. This thread actually has me itching to paint again! I have a box of 20 or 30 mummies that's been sitting around for ages unpainted, I bet I could get them all done in an hour. =) EDIT Interesting: [url]http://armypainter.fanatic.dk/[/url] All of the links under the Union Jack open PDF files like this one: [url]http://armypainter.fanatic.dk/UserFiles/File/UK_Q&A.pdf[/url] [/QUOTE]
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