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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7471795" data-attributes="member: 22779">Ok, since you've admitted to losing the point here, let me reiterate.RPG's are a game where the rules of the RPG allow the user to create new games.&nbsp; This distinguishes them from other games where the rules of the game do not allow you, the user, to create new games.&nbsp; IOW, RPG's are both games and game creation engines.&nbsp; I honestly don't care about distinguishing RPG's from shared storytelling.&nbsp; That's not the point here.&nbsp; The point here is to distinguish RPG's from other games.&nbsp; Why is Traveller an RPG while Risk is not?&nbsp; To me, it's all about the fact that Traveller is used to create a campaign, ie. game, that the players play through, while Risk, or Catan or Poker is only used to play Risk, Catan or Poker.&nbsp; Creating a planet in Traveler isn't the campaign is it?&nbsp; You don't just wander around the randomly generated planet admiring the scenery.&nbsp; The campaign lies in the aliens or pirates or whatever scenario the game master has created in order to play the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7471795, member: 22779"] Ok, since you've admitted to losing the point here, let me reiterate. RPG's are a game where the rules of the RPG allow the user to create new games. This distinguishes them from other games where the rules of the game do not allow you, the user, to create new games. IOW, RPG's are both games and game creation engines. I honestly don't care about distinguishing RPG's from shared storytelling. That's not the point here. The point here is to distinguish RPG's from other games. Why is Traveller an RPG while Risk is not? To me, it's all about the fact that Traveller is used to create a campaign, ie. game, that the players play through, while Risk, or Catan or Poker is only used to play Risk, Catan or Poker. Creating a planet in Traveler isn't the campaign is it? You don't just wander around the randomly generated planet admiring the scenery. The campaign lies in the aliens or pirates or whatever scenario the game master has created in order to play the game. [/QUOTE]

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