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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7480105" data-attributes="member: 22779">Set-up =/= scenario creation.&nbsp; You are creating nothing when you set up a board game.&nbsp; Zip.&nbsp; Zilch.&nbsp; Nada.&nbsp; You are following the set up rules for that game to play that game.&nbsp; Here is the set-up rules for Catan:Now, what is being created there?&nbsp; The game, while randomizing the board, will be pretty much exactly the same as any other game of Catan.&nbsp; Nothing is being created.&nbsp; Nothing is being added or taken away.&nbsp; There is no actual scenario here.&nbsp; You're just setting up the board for play.&nbsp; But, play is exactly the same no matter what the board looks like.&nbsp; RPG's REQUIRE scenario creation.&nbsp; You can't just make characters and play.&nbsp; Heck, even at it's most basic - the random dungeon crawl - will likely require more than just going on <a href="https://donjon.bin.sh/d20/dungeon/" target="_blank">https://donjon.bin.sh/d20/dungeon/</a> a random dungeon generator and playing.&nbsp; No one actually does this and, let's be honest, anyone who did would barely be considered playing an RPG at all.Without that Scenario Creation step, the game doesn't happen and RPG's don't actually tell you what that scenario is.&nbsp; Sure, some come with canned examples, and there's always modules, but, even then, SOMEONE created that scenario before you could play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7480105, member: 22779"] Set-up =/= scenario creation. You are creating nothing when you set up a board game. Zip. Zilch. Nada. You are following the set up rules for that game to play that game. Here is the set-up rules for Catan: Now, what is being created there? The game, while randomizing the board, will be pretty much exactly the same as any other game of Catan. Nothing is being created. Nothing is being added or taken away. There is no actual scenario here. You're just setting up the board for play. But, play is exactly the same no matter what the board looks like. RPG's REQUIRE scenario creation. You can't just make characters and play. Heck, even at it's most basic - the random dungeon crawl - will likely require more than just going on [url]https://donjon.bin.sh/d20/dungeon/[/url] a random dungeon generator and playing. No one actually does this and, let's be honest, anyone who did would barely be considered playing an RPG at all. Without that Scenario Creation step, the game doesn't happen and RPG's don't actually tell you what that scenario is. Sure, some come with canned examples, and there's always modules, but, even then, SOMEONE created that scenario before you could play. [/QUOTE]

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