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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7481425" data-attributes="member: 29398">I think what [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION] is saying (and I know he'll correct me if I'm wrong <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) is that there's more to creating the game in an RPG than simply designing the rules; and that your-as-GM decision that Lt Li is part of a conspiracy comes under game creation rather than game play.In more clear-cut situations, the game creation and set-up phase is pretty much finished before game play begins: you don't start making chess moves before all the pieces are on the board where they should be, and a traditional DM doesn't start running an adventure before she's got it all mapped out and stocked.&nbsp; But in the way you play RPGs I'd say the creation and set-up phase never really ends and very much overlaps with the actual play of the game - you kind of mush the two together and probably don't even realize (or maybe even care) when you and-or your players jump from one to the other and back.Inventing the persona of Lt Li is part of set-up, as is deciding she's part of a conspiracy.&nbsp; Whether these things are done by you ahead of time or on the fly in mid-session is irrelevant: they're still a part of the set-up phase.&nbsp; Contrast this with your actual role-playing of this character, informed and molded by the background you've given her, and the players/PCs' subsequent reactions and interactions with her: these are part of the game play phase.My educated guess is that most RPGing these days kinda does look like this, in that most current RPGing still involves a DM or GM running a prepublished module or AP where the module/AP author has already done the mapping and stocking work.&nbsp; I say this because by far the most-played RPG today is D&amp;D 5e, with PF1 next; and while some few might play these systems in make-it-up-on-the-fly format I'd think that would be an extreme minority.Lanefan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7481425, member: 29398"] I think what [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION] is saying (and I know he'll correct me if I'm wrong :) ) is that there's more to creating the game in an RPG than simply designing the rules; and that your-as-GM decision that Lt Li is part of a conspiracy comes under game creation rather than game play. In more clear-cut situations, the game creation and set-up phase is pretty much finished before game play begins: you don't start making chess moves before all the pieces are on the board where they should be, and a traditional DM doesn't start running an adventure before she's got it all mapped out and stocked. But in the way you play RPGs I'd say the creation and set-up phase never really ends and very much overlaps with the actual play of the game - you kind of mush the two together and probably don't even realize (or maybe even care) when you and-or your players jump from one to the other and back. Inventing the persona of Lt Li is part of set-up, as is deciding she's part of a conspiracy. Whether these things are done by you ahead of time or on the fly in mid-session is irrelevant: they're still a part of the set-up phase. Contrast this with your actual role-playing of this character, informed and molded by the background you've given her, and the players/PCs' subsequent reactions and interactions with her: these are part of the game play phase. My educated guess is that most RPGing these days kinda does look like this, in that most current RPGing still involves a DM or GM running a prepublished module or AP where the module/AP author has already done the mapping and stocking work. I say this because by far the most-played RPG today is D&D 5e, with PF1 next; and while some few might play these systems in make-it-up-on-the-fly format I'd think that would be an extreme minority. Lanefan [/QUOTE]

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