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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7485510" data-attributes="member: 23751">Try playing Pictionary without creation and tell me how you do.&nbsp; Without the creation, there is no game, just like with @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a>'s style.&nbsp; And I still reject the notion that both you and @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=29398" target="_blank">Lanefan</a> put forth that creation on the spot as part of RPG gameplay is set-up.&nbsp; It's a part of play, just as with Pictionary. I'm glad you finally agree with me on this.&nbsp; That's all I've been saying with regard to creation in RPGs.&nbsp; This fact makes the game steps for RPGs the same as most games.&nbsp; Rules--&gt;set-up--&gt;play.Eh, no.&nbsp; Try again.&nbsp; It's a part of the Strawmen you keep trying to attribute to me, as I've never said or even implied that all set-up is creation.&nbsp; Not once. It has been proven to you that a few board games do.&nbsp; Most do no, but a few do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7485510, member: 23751"] Try playing Pictionary without creation and tell me how you do. Without the creation, there is no game, just like with @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582"]pemerton[/URL][/U][/B][/I]'s style. And I still reject the notion that both you and @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=29398"]Lanefan[/URL][/U][/B][/I] put forth that creation on the spot as part of RPG gameplay is set-up. It's a part of play, just as with Pictionary. I'm glad you finally agree with me on this. That's all I've been saying with regard to creation in RPGs. This fact makes the game steps for RPGs the same as most games. Rules-->set-up-->play. Eh, no. Try again. It's a part of the Strawmen you keep trying to attribute to me, as I've never said or even implied that all set-up is creation. Not once. It has been proven to you that a few board games do. Most do no, but a few do. [/QUOTE]

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