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<blockquote data-quote="iwatt" data-source="post: 3016417" data-attributes="member: 11085"><p>Read what I wrote again about sense motive. I tell them only what they perceive. The Sense Motive skill is as important as Spot or Listen perception-wise. I tell the players what they see and what they hear. The more skilled they are, the better they are at this. Their ability to perceive the motives of others is just another facet of this.</p><p></p><p>Now, I understand a lot of people get incensed with this kind of stuff. I don't tell them what their player "feels"*. I tell them what they sense. Now it requires trust from my players. Trust I'm not railroading.</p><p></p><p>When they fail against an Intimidate check.... the PCs do feel scared. They aquire the shaken state. If Biff the Mighty wants to swing against the Dreadlord anyways, he can of course do it. Part of been a hero is to fighte when you're scared. </p><p></p><p>Same thing with Diplomacy. If the guy is able to swing their opinion to friendly, they will be friends. Been friends isn't mind controling somebody. Anyhow I said I use a differnt system for diplomacy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iwatt, post: 3016417, member: 11085"] Read what I wrote again about sense motive. I tell them only what they perceive. The Sense Motive skill is as important as Spot or Listen perception-wise. I tell the players what they see and what they hear. The more skilled they are, the better they are at this. Their ability to perceive the motives of others is just another facet of this. Now, I understand a lot of people get incensed with this kind of stuff. I don't tell them what their player "feels"*. I tell them what they sense. Now it requires trust from my players. Trust I'm not railroading. When they fail against an Intimidate check.... the PCs do feel scared. They aquire the shaken state. If Biff the Mighty wants to swing against the Dreadlord anyways, he can of course do it. Part of been a hero is to fighte when you're scared. Same thing with Diplomacy. If the guy is able to swing their opinion to friendly, they will be friends. Been friends isn't mind controling somebody. Anyhow I said I use a differnt system for diplomacy. [/QUOTE]
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