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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7853657" data-attributes="member: 996">I think he's suggesting that 1e was like that, though 1 guess 5e has it's fair share of freeze-dried eggs, too.See, the imagined heroism of the character isn't a matter of the game-artifact 'character' being statistically at risk under the rules, it's a matter of the internal fiction.&nbsp; A human being battling a dragon is being damned heroic.&nbsp; Whether it's in a book/movie, where the writer has already decided he's going to win, or an RPG where the player can calculate DPR throughput and be confident of the same.Conversely, the player, no matter what his pretensions to immersion and method-acting, is never being heroic.They are, but if the game is good enough, they tell the same sorts of stories with the same tropes.&nbsp; Not that most RPGs often rise to that level, and instead, more often, fall into ruts of rampant paranoia or murder-hoboism or the like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7853657, member: 996"] I think he's suggesting that 1e was like that, though 1 guess 5e has it's fair share of freeze-dried eggs, too. See, the imagined heroism of the character isn't a matter of the game-artifact 'character' being statistically at risk under the rules, it's a matter of the internal fiction. A human being battling a dragon is being damned heroic. Whether it's in a book/movie, where the writer has already decided he's going to win, or an RPG where the player can calculate DPR throughput and be confident of the same. Conversely, the player, no matter what his pretensions to immersion and method-acting, is never being heroic. They are, but if the game is good enough, they tell the same sorts of stories with the same tropes. Not that most RPGs often rise to that level, and instead, more often, fall into ruts of rampant paranoia or murder-hoboism or the like. [/QUOTE]

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