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<blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7854039" data-attributes="member: 6895991"><p>Also [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] and [USER=15700]@Sacrosanct[/USER] </p><p></p><p>Did not play 1e rules although I used 1e adventures but did play loads and loads of 2nd ed. And man, it was deadly, it was so deadly that I carefully designed custom magic weapons for the group to find relly soon so they could dish out some if they needed to. +4 and +5 arms were no rareness in my games.</p><p></p><p>I give you example: I once did the Menzoberranzan boxed set and did a huge homebrew underdark campaign on top of it. At one point the group of three drow PC, each with more than 60% Magig resistance and + weapons and armor etc. encountered a high level drow priestess, cannot remember level 14 or so.</p><p></p><p>This drow priestess cast harm on one player. Harm back then required a melee touch hit and was reducing the player to 1d4 HP LEFT plus a disease.</p><p></p><p>That means you got your 157 HP fighter with 18/96 STR e.g. and here comes 1 lowly level 13+ priest, cast harm, and if he hits there go 153 to 156 HP in one go. </p><p>Even if you were using weapon specialization and let us assume the 156 HP fighter has 3 attacks, if the priest e.g. has 16 dex and wears mundane platemail and shield for AC0, then the following happens:</p><p>The fighter maybe hits 2 out of three of his attacks, let us say a +3 two hand swords for 1d10+3 +4 (from str) +2 (from specialization) means avg 15.5, so 31</p><p>in one round.</p><p>Next round the priest only needs to hit once for 1d6+1 with his mundane mace and there you go, the fighter dies in the second round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coroc, post: 7854039, member: 6895991"] Also [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] and [USER=15700]@Sacrosanct[/USER] Did not play 1e rules although I used 1e adventures but did play loads and loads of 2nd ed. And man, it was deadly, it was so deadly that I carefully designed custom magic weapons for the group to find relly soon so they could dish out some if they needed to. +4 and +5 arms were no rareness in my games. I give you example: I once did the Menzoberranzan boxed set and did a huge homebrew underdark campaign on top of it. At one point the group of three drow PC, each with more than 60% Magig resistance and + weapons and armor etc. encountered a high level drow priestess, cannot remember level 14 or so. This drow priestess cast harm on one player. Harm back then required a melee touch hit and was reducing the player to 1d4 HP LEFT plus a disease. That means you got your 157 HP fighter with 18/96 STR e.g. and here comes 1 lowly level 13+ priest, cast harm, and if he hits there go 153 to 156 HP in one go. Even if you were using weapon specialization and let us assume the 156 HP fighter has 3 attacks, if the priest e.g. has 16 dex and wears mundane platemail and shield for AC0, then the following happens: The fighter maybe hits 2 out of three of his attacks, let us say a +3 two hand swords for 1d10+3 +4 (from str) +2 (from specialization) means avg 15.5, so 31 in one round. Next round the priest only needs to hit once for 1d6+1 with his mundane mace and there you go, the fighter dies in the second round. [/QUOTE]
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