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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 3996836" data-attributes="member: 94">"Extensive sports knowledge" is not a criteria; that's an appeal to authority.As for the actual criteria you appear to be using, I'd say that's evidence of coaching prowess, and management prowess, but really has nothing to do with an achievement of sport. I don't particularly care how a sports team is put together, the common frame of reference for the greatness of athletes is-- stay with me here-- their athletic performance.None of which is to say that the Pats wouldn't be considered great on that criteria. I was expecting you to point to things like Moss and Brady's record-breaking season. I don't think I'm alone in expecting the criteria for "greatest team in all of sports" to refer to the actual sports being played. If we're going to throw open the criteria for "greatness" to activities off the field, I'll start looking for charitable works, military service, delivering babies, fighting crime in Gotham, etc.I wouldn't dispute any of that, but I think in the end, when folks (outside of New England) talk about "the greatest teams in sports history" the why's and how's of how the team came together are an asterisk at best, and folks will tend to focus on the actual performance of the sport in question. Even great coaching is a footnote, except where it relates to encouraging the best performance from your team.But then again I don't have the "extensive sports knowledge" to really give a <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> about how hard it was to put the team together under the salary cap. Maybe someday they'll award trophies for that.</blockquote>

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