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<blockquote data-quote="Lo-Kag" data-source="post: 5599786" data-attributes="member: 6668831">Ok, so the player that sent me the email is not the DM for this game, but another one entirely, which is why he says he's offended.I sent him an email directly:&quot;&quot;So if it wasn't a rock but let's say a handaxe or dagger(same die roll&nbsp; as a rock) would have been used in the same situation, would that still&nbsp; be &quot;cheese?&quot;I was just following what the compendium says.&quot;&quot;A few hours later I received this email:&quot;&quot;No, of course not, because those are weapons that are meant to be used as such. I know you were just following what the compendium says - the rules have&nbsp; nothing to do with my point. My point is that you were throwing a rock&nbsp; expecting the same results as you would get with a dagger. You were&nbsp; intentionally being silly at the expense of Mike's campaign world. He&nbsp; spent a lot of time planning and trying to set a theme and you&nbsp; interrupted everyone's immersion in that world by doing something that&nbsp; the rules don't say you can't do. That is the definition of cheese.If it had been my game I would have said that's cheese and it's not&nbsp; allowed and we would have moved on. But you put Mike in a bad position&nbsp; because he was focused on getting his story across and making sure we&nbsp; were seeing all the cues and hints to keep the interaction moving. The&nbsp; reason I'm upset is because we had to bring the game to a screeching&nbsp; halt to look up a rule to see if you could actually deal damage with a&nbsp; thrown rock, when we all know you can't. Not because the rules don't say&nbsp; you can't but because we all know it's cheesy.However, this is Mike's game and I will defer to whatever he decides. I just felt insulted as a DM and I had to say something.&quot;&quot;Mike is the DM he is referring to. And I also spoke to him about this very thing. HE told me that it wasn't cheese. I just don't understand why he's having such a problem with this. I was having fun playing my character. And I was laughing from the fact that I could mark from across the field.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lo-Kag, post: 5599786, member: 6668831"] Ok, so the player that sent me the email is not the DM for this game, but another one entirely, which is why he says he's offended. I sent him an email directly: ""So if it wasn't a rock but let's say a handaxe or dagger(same die roll as a rock) would have been used in the same situation, would that still be "cheese?" I was just following what the compendium says."" A few hours later I received this email: ""No, of course not, because those are weapons that are meant to be used as such. I know you were just following what the compendium says - the rules have nothing to do with my point. My point is that you were throwing a rock expecting the same results as you would get with a dagger. You were intentionally being silly at the expense of Mike's campaign world. He spent a lot of time planning and trying to set a theme and you interrupted everyone's immersion in that world by doing something that the rules don't say you can't do. That is the definition of cheese. If it had been my game I would have said that's cheese and it's not allowed and we would have moved on. But you put Mike in a bad position because he was focused on getting his story across and making sure we were seeing all the cues and hints to keep the interaction moving. The reason I'm upset is because we had to bring the game to a screeching halt to look up a rule to see if you could actually deal damage with a thrown rock, when we all know you can't. Not because the rules don't say you can't but because we all know it's cheesy. However, this is Mike's game and I will defer to whatever he decides. I just felt insulted as a DM and I had to say something."" Mike is the DM he is referring to. And I also spoke to him about this very thing. HE told me that it wasn't cheese. I just don't understand why he's having such a problem with this. I was having fun playing my character. And I was laughing from the fact that I could mark from across the field. [SIZE=6][COLOR=#00FF00][B][FONT=Lucida Handwriting][/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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