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<blockquote data-quote="Cyrinishad" data-source="post: 7305397" data-attributes="member: 6808925"><p>Can you let me know which product the "If players state that they’re watching for potential ambush spots, give them advantage when making these checks" quote is from? I'm curious to read it to get some additional context, but my gut-reaction to it is very negative... It makes me wonder if the writer was conflating the advice in the DMG about Temporary Circumstances granting Advantage/Disadvantage (which is a Character driven in-game mechanic), versus awarding Inspiration (which is Player driven meta-game mechanic)... As a DM I would never directly apply Advantage to a Roll in the game based on Player commentary... That quote seems like a short slippery slope to the Players continually expecting to have Advantage on Attack Rolls, just because of how they're describing their PCs attacks... followed quickly by them expecting Advantage on ALL Rolls for PCs, just because the Players are using their Words at the table... I'm just not having it.</p><p></p><p>However, I certainly do utilize both of those mechanics independently of each other... If I were to reinterpret the quote using the Inspiration mechanic, it would read more like this:</p><p>"If players state that they’re watching for potential ambush spots, award them with Inspiration for using their Sixth Sense"... I still don't think that is an adequate reason to award Inspiration (since it is a purely subjective determination), but I could at least rationalize it as an example of how a DM could award Inspiration...</p><p></p><p>Or, if I were to reinterpret the quote using Temporary Circumstances, it would read more like this:</p><p>"If the characters are approaching the ambush spot in the Morning, grant them with Advantage on associated checks because the Sun is at their back. But, if the characters are approaching the ambush spot in the Afternoon, grant them with Disadvantage on associated checks because the Sun is in their eyes."... This seems like a fairly reasonable scenario to apply Advantage or Disadvantage to a PC.</p><p></p><p>As a DM, when I hear the phrase "My character is always..." from my Players, my logic is similar to your quote above... I also interpret the phrase "My character is always..." as a scenario I can use to encourage a PC to Bite on a Plot-Hook, because they are telegraphing that their character would take the Bait if it was offered...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cyrinishad, post: 7305397, member: 6808925"] Can you let me know which product the "If players state that they’re watching for potential ambush spots, give them advantage when making these checks" quote is from? I'm curious to read it to get some additional context, but my gut-reaction to it is very negative... It makes me wonder if the writer was conflating the advice in the DMG about Temporary Circumstances granting Advantage/Disadvantage (which is a Character driven in-game mechanic), versus awarding Inspiration (which is Player driven meta-game mechanic)... As a DM I would never directly apply Advantage to a Roll in the game based on Player commentary... That quote seems like a short slippery slope to the Players continually expecting to have Advantage on Attack Rolls, just because of how they're describing their PCs attacks... followed quickly by them expecting Advantage on ALL Rolls for PCs, just because the Players are using their Words at the table... I'm just not having it. However, I certainly do utilize both of those mechanics independently of each other... If I were to reinterpret the quote using the Inspiration mechanic, it would read more like this: "If players state that they’re watching for potential ambush spots, award them with Inspiration for using their Sixth Sense"... I still don't think that is an adequate reason to award Inspiration (since it is a purely subjective determination), but I could at least rationalize it as an example of how a DM could award Inspiration... Or, if I were to reinterpret the quote using Temporary Circumstances, it would read more like this: "If the characters are approaching the ambush spot in the Morning, grant them with Advantage on associated checks because the Sun is at their back. But, if the characters are approaching the ambush spot in the Afternoon, grant them with Disadvantage on associated checks because the Sun is in their eyes."... This seems like a fairly reasonable scenario to apply Advantage or Disadvantage to a PC. As a DM, when I hear the phrase "My character is always..." from my Players, my logic is similar to your quote above... I also interpret the phrase "My character is always..." as a scenario I can use to encourage a PC to Bite on a Plot-Hook, because they are telegraphing that their character would take the Bait if it was offered... [/QUOTE]
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