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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8791617" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, that seems like a misunderstanding of what the OP is saying.He said "My current assessment", not "my final judgment".And currently, nothing is really contradicting him.It's unarguably true to say that the most powerful Martial stuff got nerfed, and the stuff that got buffed isn't as strong as that stuff was.Rogues got an unarguable DPR decrease from the "Attack Action" phrasing change.Rangers got pushed into being a more magic-centric class, relying on repeatedly casting Hunter's Mark for their damage to be even okay.Bards have a messier selection of spells, but are vastly more flexible so will be even more of a menace re: out-of-combat magic.The "everyone preps spells" change in generally increases flexibility for casters and favours out-of-combat casting.Invisibility unarguably got significantly buffed, for no apparent reason. It's particularly bad because of the "natural language" nonsense 5E does (and presumably 1D&D will also).What do you think a Rogue is?It's a Martial class. If you don't think it is, you're using a different definition to everyone else. Martial in this context doesn't just mean "Warrior", it essentially means non-caster, though often includes partial casters too, just never full-casters.Except that pretty much everything he's said is supported by the details, and you're ignoring those, or dismissing them. As well as making errors like stating the Rogue isn't a Martial class (if anything, the argument would be that the Ranger wasn't).Right now, we've seen buffs to magic-users, especially full-casters, particularly when we consider the video which says the preparation changes will extend to all casters, and nerfs to Martials. Including a wide-spectrum and bizarrely unnecessary change of wording to "When you make an Attack Action" across a lot more than just Rogues - this was also found in the first packet, inexplicably nerfing a bad Feat into an even worse one.Will future packets also bring spellcasters down? Maybe, but I'm skeptical. Bards, overall, mechanically, seem stronger than 5E, and they were already strong in 5E. Wizards seem very likely to get buffed, because they'll need to be differentiated from other prep casters, and that's likely to mean them becoming even stronger, and they were already strong - especially outside of combat, where their flexibility was huge. Likely they'll be even more flexible!So acting like this is not worth being concerned over, not something we should be definitely thinking about and talking about in our survey responses is downright irresponsible if you ask me.</blockquote>

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