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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 6407627" data-attributes="member: 10479">(O)D&amp;D and Basic (of which there are several kinds, actually) really shouldn't be conflated.&nbsp; I agree with trancejeremy that &quot;OSR = TSR era D&amp;D/AD&amp;D&quot; but would extend that to other TSR RPGs like Empire of the Petal Throne, Metamorphosis Alpha, Gamma World, and even Boot Hill, Gangbusters, and Top Secret, and maybe even Marvel Superheroes.&nbsp; I might even be inclined to include some of the non-TSR RPGs like Tunnels &amp; Trolls, Villains and Vigilantes, Traveller, Chivalry &amp; Sorcery, and RuneQuest, and perhaps even Bunnies &amp; Burrows.&nbsp; (Yeah, I went there.)&nbsp; There are others but those are good examples.&nbsp; As such, the OSR isn't simply about compatibility with early D&amp;D nor even about products published to emulate early D&amp;D, but about a whole movement to play and enjoy early RPGs, and in some smaller sense includes some newer games and supplements that emulate early RPGs of many stripes.You post about it being a broad tent but are incredibly restrictive in one sense, and far too inclusive in others, as to what the base really seems to play and enjoy.I've always been amazed at how untrue this can be in actual play.&nbsp; I've been gaming since the early 70s, and RPGing since 74, and the idea that there was a particular Old School &quot;style of play&quot; wasn't true then and still isn't true of the OSR today.This idea just baffles me, as if it is somehow wrongheaded to simply say that people bring varying elements of nostalgia to any gaming they do if they've been doing it long enough.&nbsp; I don't think the movement &quot;sprang&quot; so much as became less isolated, as it has certainly always been there for most folks who played back then and still do.&nbsp; It might seem as if it has &quot;sprang&quot; up again to those who didn't play back then or those who did and took a hiatus from gaming but most of the OSR folk I know simply never stopped playing, and still play in the varied manners in which they played all along.&nbsp; Now, however, with the Internet and social media, other folks are just more aware of its existence and seemingly like what they see.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 6407627, member: 10479"] (O)D&D and Basic (of which there are several kinds, actually) really shouldn't be conflated. I agree with trancejeremy that "OSR = TSR era D&D/AD&D" but would extend that to other TSR RPGs like Empire of the Petal Throne, Metamorphosis Alpha, Gamma World, and even Boot Hill, Gangbusters, and Top Secret, and maybe even Marvel Superheroes. I might even be inclined to include some of the non-TSR RPGs like Tunnels & Trolls, Villains and Vigilantes, Traveller, Chivalry & Sorcery, and RuneQuest, and perhaps even Bunnies & Burrows. (Yeah, I went there.) There are others but those are good examples. As such, the OSR isn't simply about compatibility with early D&D nor even about products published to emulate early D&D, but about a whole movement to play and enjoy early RPGs, and in some smaller sense includes some newer games and supplements that emulate early RPGs of many stripes. You post about it being a broad tent but are incredibly restrictive in one sense, and far too inclusive in others, as to what the base really seems to play and enjoy. I've always been amazed at how untrue this can be in actual play. I've been gaming since the early 70s, and RPGing since 74, and the idea that there was a particular Old School "style of play" wasn't true then and still isn't true of the OSR today. This idea just baffles me, as if it is somehow wrongheaded to simply say that people bring varying elements of nostalgia to any gaming they do if they've been doing it long enough. I don't think the movement "sprang" so much as became less isolated, as it has certainly always been there for most folks who played back then and still do. It might seem as if it has "sprang" up again to those who didn't play back then or those who did and took a hiatus from gaming but most of the OSR folk I know simply never stopped playing, and still play in the varied manners in which they played all along. Now, however, with the Internet and social media, other folks are just more aware of its existence and seemingly like what they see. [/QUOTE]

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