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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 5592233" data-attributes="member: 10784">Speaking of unreliable/game wrecking players and real-life intervening, I have a funny story from several years back.The DM of my old group was a fantastic DM - far better than I could ever hope to be.  He ran a very tight ship, but also preferred to DM for a large group of 8 or more players.  Surprisingly, he handled large groups extremely well.However, he's had health issues over the years and had trouble walking at the time, so games basically had to be at his house.  We were attempting to start a new campaign and had all agreed to be at his place at X o'clock on a Saturday or Sunday.  The time arrives and I get there, as do two other guys and the DM's brother.  However, the other four people that were supposed to be there were no shows... no calls, no emails, nothing.The DM guy said, "Jeff (me) and Ken, you're both married.  John (DM's brother) and I both have long-term girlfriends... it's amazing that the guys who have actually, you know, gotten (euphemism for having sex) are the ones that are here on time and ready to game."  The stereotypical pasty-faced basement dwelling gamers with no social lives were the ones who didn't show up and didn't bother calling.Sometimes it is the players.</blockquote>