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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 211866" data-attributes="member: 2205">That's quite a bit of a cop-out, Glamdring.  Actually, you haven't really been insulted on this thread, and most of the initially heated comments that came out have been resolved.You've completely ignored my post, however.  How do you answer the following points that I made?  If you're serious about wanting good debate, let's hear it:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">FR is not a novel based campaign setting.  Rather, the FR novels are based on the FR D&D setting.  Therefore, you're focus is completely backwards from the intended scenario.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How do you handle inconsistencies that would almost inevitably come up if you're running epic games (like you say you are) and new novels are constantly coming out?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How do you handle players having way more knowledge about the setting than their characters can be expected to have?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How do you answer my charge that relying on the books to give you atmosphere is a crutch for bad DMing?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How do you maintain the 3e "forgot" to include things like infravision, when it is clear that they were changed on purpose, and 3e designers have even specifically addressed that particularly change?  Or drow weapons not disintegrating anymore?  Or the other issues that you consider to be "sacred cows" of FR, but which no longer exist in the new rules system?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">On a related note, how can you consistently say that 3e is a patch for 2e when it is clearly a major revision and rehaul, and the designers of the game have even stated exactly that?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How do you answer the charge that I say there's no way you can claim that your campaign is bigger in scope than most DMs?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How can you make any relationship one way or another about your campaign being big in scope and that requires the novels to play?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What does the fact that you're an English grad student have to do with gaming?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If you want to be published by WotC, why haven't you looked at their writer's guidelines?  Do you really think that WotC is ignoring 3e changes and carrying on in a 2e mode?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I'd like some more discussion about your extremely odd position that DMs are like teachers and players like students.</li> </ul>I mean, c'mon man!  Don't throw up weak-@$$ excuses like "I'm really a nice guy, I promise, and DN can vouch for me, and I knew I'd be misunderstood here," and all that crap.  And don't act all insulted when people respond to your deliberate trolling (which you've now admitted, after first being shocked and insulted that people called you a troll in the first place.)  And most importantly, don't ignore the issues that have been placed in front of you if you really are serious about debating this as you claim.</blockquote>

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