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<blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 3477069" data-attributes="member: 33132"><p>However, most people only know about WotC's products at all... only more invested gamers use other RPG material, and these can usually distinguish between icky glut and gems, furthermore, "the glut" has died and left some great producers (Green Ronin, Mongoose, Paizo, Necromancer, Goodman Games & Co.) - so it is very improbable, that a new glut occurs - low-quality produces have burnt their fingers and high quality produces will still produce high quality stuff (after a short time of transition, after they've completely learned the ropes of the system).</p><p></p><p>Additionally, the novelty of the first OGL is gone - many publishers jumped on the d20 bandwagon, because it was brand-new. Shiny. A new opportunity. This time, it's just d20 again (I assume that 4E will stick to d20) - just a new shape, incarnation, whatever - nothing special, except being the market leader in RPGs. Just like now.</p><p></p><p>Thus the decision will rather go down to "Do we want the capability of other people to mess with our 4E?"</p><p>We don't know.</p><p></p><p>But we have a OGL license out there... and you cannot copyright mechanics. It is completely possible, that a publisher produces a OGL-compliant system, totally compatible to 4E - just like OSRIC in relation to 1E. And we know the "Pocket Player's Handbook", which is essentially a crunch rehash of the PHB. This will, after some time, happen with 4E as well, perhaps even more if it's closed content.</p><p></p><p>D&D is huge, and I think many publishers take an interest in a D&D compatible thing, therefore, I expect such a system.</p><p></p><p>But then, even if it doesn't happen, we can stick to the current OGL-prodructs, we have a great variety between things like True20 and Iron Heroes. I'm happy with my mutant-bizarro-d20-Arcana-Evolved-D&D-hybrid. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>@Maggan: Never heard of that. Ugh. That sounds bad. And I thought it's hard to find RPG-stuff in Germany without amazon... :/</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WhatGravitas, post: 3477069, member: 33132"] However, most people only know about WotC's products at all... only more invested gamers use other RPG material, and these can usually distinguish between icky glut and gems, furthermore, "the glut" has died and left some great producers (Green Ronin, Mongoose, Paizo, Necromancer, Goodman Games & Co.) - so it is very improbable, that a new glut occurs - low-quality produces have burnt their fingers and high quality produces will still produce high quality stuff (after a short time of transition, after they've completely learned the ropes of the system). Additionally, the novelty of the first OGL is gone - many publishers jumped on the d20 bandwagon, because it was brand-new. Shiny. A new opportunity. This time, it's just d20 again (I assume that 4E will stick to d20) - just a new shape, incarnation, whatever - nothing special, except being the market leader in RPGs. Just like now. Thus the decision will rather go down to "Do we want the capability of other people to mess with our 4E?" We don't know. But we have a OGL license out there... and you cannot copyright mechanics. It is completely possible, that a publisher produces a OGL-compliant system, totally compatible to 4E - just like OSRIC in relation to 1E. And we know the "Pocket Player's Handbook", which is essentially a crunch rehash of the PHB. This will, after some time, happen with 4E as well, perhaps even more if it's closed content. D&D is huge, and I think many publishers take an interest in a D&D compatible thing, therefore, I expect such a system. But then, even if it doesn't happen, we can stick to the current OGL-prodructs, we have a great variety between things like True20 and Iron Heroes. I'm happy with my mutant-bizarro-d20-Arcana-Evolved-D&D-hybrid. :) @Maggan: Never heard of that. Ugh. That sounds bad. And I thought it's hard to find RPG-stuff in Germany without amazon... :/ [/QUOTE]
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