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My fighter always gets battered-am I "normal"?
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<blockquote data-quote="ForceUser" data-source="post: 2538274" data-attributes="member: 2785"><p>I'm playing a dwarven Bbn 1/Ftr 11 with a similar feat progression. Our gear differs a bit; my guy has +3 dwarven full plate, a +3 falchion, a +3 amulet of natural armor, bracers that cast shield 3/day, and a +2 ring of protection for defense. I also combine the Improved Toughness feat with an 18 Con. At 12th level, my PC has 134 hps--11 fewer hps than yours. His base AC is 25, or 29 with <em>shield</em> cast, or 31 with <em>shield</em> cast and the whirling frenzy rage variant from Unearthed Arcana. All in all, our PCs appear pretty similar. </p><p></p><p>I don't get smacked around nearly as much as you seem to be getting smacked around. There are a few reasons for this. One, there are six PCs in my party, including another dwarf in full plate (Clr 8/Ftr 4) and a human paladin (Pal 10/Divine Crusader 2). All three of us are in the front ranks quite a lot, so the melee damage from monsters is divided up three ways. That's probably the biggest difference. Two, my character doesn't tend to be in melee with the same monster for more than 2 rounds, because with Power Attack, Great Cleave, Improved Critical and a falchion, I tend to finish off even monsters loaded with hit points in short order. My PC rarely gets a full attack in a round, because the monster is dead by the time the 3rd or 4th attack arrives. My PC regularly power attacks for 5, doing 2d4+25 damage, or 4d4+50 on a crit. With a threat range of 15-20, he crits about 30% of the time. When using Great Cleave against multiple foes, it's not uncommon for my PC to dish out ~200 damage/round. </p><p></p><p>So with my guy, he takes 1/3rd of the melee hits and dishes out insane damage. Few monsters can withstand him in melee for more than a round or two. Combine that with two other fighters, a wizard, a cleric and a ranger (archer), and I rarely drop below 1/2 hit points in a given encounter. </p><p></p><p>I think your PC's real problem is two-fold--one, you're the only guy taking hits, and two, your group is one less than the magic quartet recommended for most D&D adventures. What needs to happen in your situation is for the cleric to share some of the tanking responsibilities with you. If he's wearing plate armor and can cast <em>righteous might</em>, then his a$$ needs to be right next to you in the front ranks, soaking hits. That's my advice--get the cleric involved.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ForceUser, post: 2538274, member: 2785"] I'm playing a dwarven Bbn 1/Ftr 11 with a similar feat progression. Our gear differs a bit; my guy has +3 dwarven full plate, a +3 falchion, a +3 amulet of natural armor, bracers that cast shield 3/day, and a +2 ring of protection for defense. I also combine the Improved Toughness feat with an 18 Con. At 12th level, my PC has 134 hps--11 fewer hps than yours. His base AC is 25, or 29 with [i]shield[/i] cast, or 31 with [i]shield[/i] cast and the whirling frenzy rage variant from Unearthed Arcana. All in all, our PCs appear pretty similar. I don't get smacked around nearly as much as you seem to be getting smacked around. There are a few reasons for this. One, there are six PCs in my party, including another dwarf in full plate (Clr 8/Ftr 4) and a human paladin (Pal 10/Divine Crusader 2). All three of us are in the front ranks quite a lot, so the melee damage from monsters is divided up three ways. That's probably the biggest difference. Two, my character doesn't tend to be in melee with the same monster for more than 2 rounds, because with Power Attack, Great Cleave, Improved Critical and a falchion, I tend to finish off even monsters loaded with hit points in short order. My PC rarely gets a full attack in a round, because the monster is dead by the time the 3rd or 4th attack arrives. My PC regularly power attacks for 5, doing 2d4+25 damage, or 4d4+50 on a crit. With a threat range of 15-20, he crits about 30% of the time. When using Great Cleave against multiple foes, it's not uncommon for my PC to dish out ~200 damage/round. So with my guy, he takes 1/3rd of the melee hits and dishes out insane damage. Few monsters can withstand him in melee for more than a round or two. Combine that with two other fighters, a wizard, a cleric and a ranger (archer), and I rarely drop below 1/2 hit points in a given encounter. I think your PC's real problem is two-fold--one, you're the only guy taking hits, and two, your group is one less than the magic quartet recommended for most D&D adventures. What needs to happen in your situation is for the cleric to share some of the tanking responsibilities with you. If he's wearing plate armor and can cast [i]righteous might[/i], then his a$$ needs to be right next to you in the front ranks, soaking hits. That's my advice--get the cleric involved. [/QUOTE]
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