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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 2050244" data-attributes="member: 944">I sually put a point or two into spot and listen if they aren't class skills -- and a few points into a profession or craft (which is a class skill) for flavor --fortunetly every DM in the groups  I play with gives 2 extra points per level after I started doing it so I have points to burn In my current game we modifed the skill rules a bit to encourage variety without multi classing we have background skills (usually knowledge based) at 3 per person that are always class skills and we give +2 skill points a level This works OK (not great but OK) it adds a layer of unneeded complexity IMO  In the next game I am thinking about dropping class skills completely  and just letting the number of points be the guide. Any class can take any skill  My reasoningsI don't use PRC's so I don't need to wrry about the skill level balance It allows for interesting characters -- athletic mages, bookish fighters, social barbarians etc The fighter  is the primary combat specialist and he almost never has spot or listen at a decent amount. Thus they will almost l always get ambushed. They also don't have professions or any knowledge -- I don't like this effect The simplest solution IMO  is to allow anyone any skill -- The points per class (4,6,8,10) will be the deciding factor not the class</blockquote>