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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4161035" data-attributes="member: 40961">Interesting read.One thing I've noticed is that conceptualizing first level is a lot different than it was before.&nbsp; On one hand, the PCs have snazzy abilities, know how to use all their weapons, can apparently afford real gear (unlike 3e where the fighter can't afford armor until level 2 or so), and have per day powers that absolutely rock.&nbsp; On the other hand, they're still only sufficiently powerful to confidently take on adventures based around kobolds and things, and they get sent to the hospital by a fight against an equal number of generic city guards.So on one hand, they have a lot of stuff you associate with experience, but on the other, they're below the power level of a generic human combatant.&nbsp; They may have neat tricks that generic npc hasn't got, but that npc has hit points, ac, attack roll, and damage.&nbsp; And that goes a long way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4161035, member: 40961"] Interesting read. One thing I've noticed is that conceptualizing first level is a lot different than it was before. On one hand, the PCs have snazzy abilities, know how to use all their weapons, can apparently afford real gear (unlike 3e where the fighter can't afford armor until level 2 or so), and have per day powers that absolutely rock. On the other hand, they're still only sufficiently powerful to confidently take on adventures based around kobolds and things, and they get sent to the hospital by a fight against an equal number of generic city guards. So on one hand, they have a lot of stuff you associate with experience, but on the other, they're below the power level of a generic human combatant. They may have neat tricks that generic npc hasn't got, but that npc has hit points, ac, attack roll, and damage. And that goes a long way. [/QUOTE]

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