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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4393852" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>I won't be surprised if someone tries to distort this answer into something vastly more melodramatic than what I'm saying, but so be it.</p><p></p><p>No.</p><p></p><p>If "a game" sums it up, then Descent and Monopoly both meet the criteria.</p><p>If you play it as a board battle game, then it is not that far away from Descent (still better, but very much in the same ballpark). I'm sure there are people who simply want that, and that's cool. For people playing that way "it is a game". Simple. Done. </p><p></p><p>However, there is a reason the books say "Roleplaying Game" and not just "Game". "Roleplaying Game" entails a lot more than simply being "a game". If you don't grok that then you don't know what you are missing. As RPGs go, 4E is a good one. Of course I can think of twenty good RPGs. 4E is right there in the mix. I'd rather play one of the very best rather than a good one that just happens to have "the D&D name" on it and be the latest new shiny. Why settle for "good" when I can have GREAT?</p><p></p><p>Lastly, and for me most important of all, to me it is about creativity. I've dabbled with some writing and people tell me I'm good, but I have exactly zero illusions about quitting my day job. But beyond that, for me to be satisfied with it, it starts to feel like work of its own. Role play world building doesn't do that with me. I just flat out love it. I spend at least as much time creating as I do sitting at a table playing. Maybe twice as much. And I love it. For me that is a great form of recreation. And I wouldn't say "a game" is remotely accurate at describing that. No more than it would be to call painting or writing a story "a game". And this is probably the most important criteria for me. The others are still important, but a bit less. So no. It is not just a game. </p><p></p><p>Unless you only mean 4E. 4E is "just a game". (Or rather, just a game , of the roleplaying variety)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 4393852, member: 957"] I won't be surprised if someone tries to distort this answer into something vastly more melodramatic than what I'm saying, but so be it. No. If "a game" sums it up, then Descent and Monopoly both meet the criteria. If you play it as a board battle game, then it is not that far away from Descent (still better, but very much in the same ballpark). I'm sure there are people who simply want that, and that's cool. For people playing that way "it is a game". Simple. Done. However, there is a reason the books say "Roleplaying Game" and not just "Game". "Roleplaying Game" entails a lot more than simply being "a game". If you don't grok that then you don't know what you are missing. As RPGs go, 4E is a good one. Of course I can think of twenty good RPGs. 4E is right there in the mix. I'd rather play one of the very best rather than a good one that just happens to have "the D&D name" on it and be the latest new shiny. Why settle for "good" when I can have GREAT? Lastly, and for me most important of all, to me it is about creativity. I've dabbled with some writing and people tell me I'm good, but I have exactly zero illusions about quitting my day job. But beyond that, for me to be satisfied with it, it starts to feel like work of its own. Role play world building doesn't do that with me. I just flat out love it. I spend at least as much time creating as I do sitting at a table playing. Maybe twice as much. And I love it. For me that is a great form of recreation. And I wouldn't say "a game" is remotely accurate at describing that. No more than it would be to call painting or writing a story "a game". And this is probably the most important criteria for me. The others are still important, but a bit less. So no. It is not just a game. Unless you only mean 4E. 4E is "just a game". (Or rather, just a game , of the roleplaying variety) [/QUOTE]
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