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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7556081" data-attributes="member: 6880599">Bad example as boxing doesn't allow kicking, grappling, and arm bars which are basically necessities of weaker opponents against stronger ones (that and getting under a lifting taller larger opponents but while that is in boxing they just us it to punch they don't off balance another boxer grab his leg and force him to the ground), but your saying a Stronger fighter will always win. That is not the case. Sure being strong is an advantage but form reflex training, lines of approach, knowing moves and counters make a huge difference. In MMA and wrestling style strength still matters but its not an end all be all or you would know who is going to win every fight at weigh in. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI4L0qNMshM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI4L0qNMshM</a>Their are times with the weaker smaller fighter wins. Sure David vs Goliath was ranged vs melee but "Dexterity" matters as does "constitution" because winning a fight is about finding advantages and exploiting them. If you want to say strength is the "greatest advantage" I will not argue against that however if you want to say strength is the only thing that should matter... I find that too far. I don't always want to be Conan, sometimes I want to be Jet Lee. Would Conan beat Jet Lee in fist fight? I would lean to Arnold Schwarzenegger sure put a greatsword in Arnolds hands and a lighter Katana, Longsword, or Chinese Jian... I really think Arnold Should run because Jet Lee has spent a large part of his life learning to be skilled with fists and swords but Arnold has focused on strength. Put Arnold I full plate and Jet Lee should maybe run. If strength is under rated in D&D its from the perspective that Plate Armor is scale very week compared to real world fights where a skill swordsman against a random large strong person will find his sword going dull and "week spots" are still covered in chain mail or very small. If you want to promote strength by nerfing Dex, let heavy armor reduce non-magical damage from dex based attacks by AC-10 points of damage. So Ring mail -4, Chain mail -6, Splint mail -7, and Plate -8 minimum 0. Don't ignore that non-strength based fighters exist.Sure, but I don't see any problem with the Dex + Wisdom for AC method now. It already requires 2 stats instead of just strength so its much harder to increase. Where Strength you just buy better armor or pull it off a dead enemy or the uninjured part sections of several enemies. The truth is Dex is not broken for combat and people picking the Jet Lee style over the Arnold/Conan style is just that a style choice.</blockquote>

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