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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7556089" data-attributes="member: 6880599"><p>Right and I hear that a lot, but then your ignoring the effects of not being strong. The effect is their is no such thing as weakness. … Every suddenly not only becomes strong but VERY strong. Strong to the point where the strength stat becomes trivial.. but not by the rules, but because a meta game reason of not wanting write stuff down on a piece of paper or use auto calculating sheet like MPMB or some formulas in excel which provides the required information to use strength. I am also guessing you, never run across heavy doors with strength requirement? you don't roll for swim, jump, climb check very often if ever, am I right? What about shove and grapple, rules? Those rule are in the book. If GMs are ignoring them for the meta game reason of not wanting deal with the &quot;major pain of calculating weight&quot; that's fine, but it comes with the side effect of devaluing the stat that it exists to reinforce. If a GM never uses perception, insight, or survival but uses investigation and knowledge skill or puzzles expect players to increase intellect because they don't see the point in wisdom. Making intellect less functional intellect will not suddenly make wisdom better because its being nerfed to uselessness unless its your spell caster ability.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7556089, member: 6880599"] Right and I hear that a lot, but then your ignoring the effects of not being strong. The effect is their is no such thing as weakness. … Every suddenly not only becomes strong but VERY strong. Strong to the point where the strength stat becomes trivial.. but not by the rules, but because a meta game reason of not wanting write stuff down on a piece of paper or use auto calculating sheet like MPMB or some formulas in excel which provides the required information to use strength. I am also guessing you, never run across heavy doors with strength requirement? you don't roll for swim, jump, climb check very often if ever, am I right? What about shove and grapple, rules? Those rule are in the book. If GMs are ignoring them for the meta game reason of not wanting deal with the "major pain of calculating weight" that's fine, but it comes with the side effect of devaluing the stat that it exists to reinforce. If a GM never uses perception, insight, or survival but uses investigation and knowledge skill or puzzles expect players to increase intellect because they don't see the point in wisdom. Making intellect less functional intellect will not suddenly make wisdom better because its being nerfed to uselessness unless its your spell caster ability. [/QUOTE]

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