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<blockquote data-quote="ZSutherland" data-source="post: 3659367" data-attributes="member: 7638">The sometimes unfortunate truth of the matter is that the game itself discourages players from surrender, especially the higher the level of the PC.&nbsp; A new character (say one made after a death) starts with gear appropriate to wealth-by-level, but a captured and looted character is crippled in many ways.&nbsp; This isn't to say that a clever DM and good players couldn't bounce back from such an ordeal, but death is a piddly obstacle in comparison to the lost ground of having to rebuild loot.&nbsp; Also, as Numion points out, the characters are the players only avenue of choice and effect on the game world.&nbsp; If they lose control of their characters, they're now effectively listening to a story instead of playing a game.One of my long-time regular players would much rather lose his character, or even keep the character but lose all his wealth, than have to watch his charmed or dominated PC running around out of his control.&nbsp; It irks him like little else in the world.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ZSutherland, post: 3659367, member: 7638"] The sometimes unfortunate truth of the matter is that the game itself discourages players from surrender, especially the higher the level of the PC. A new character (say one made after a death) starts with gear appropriate to wealth-by-level, but a captured and looted character is crippled in many ways. This isn't to say that a clever DM and good players couldn't bounce back from such an ordeal, but death is a piddly obstacle in comparison to the lost ground of having to rebuild loot. Also, as Numion points out, the characters are the players only avenue of choice and effect on the game world. If they lose control of their characters, they're now effectively listening to a story instead of playing a game. One of my long-time regular players would much rather lose his character, or even keep the character but lose all his wealth, than have to watch his charmed or dominated PC running around out of his control. It irks him like little else in the world. [/QUOTE]

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