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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 1597866" data-attributes="member: 5834">redie kluge,What you may think is an insane encounter may be just tough enough to challenge them. High level Pc's are real tough. They always do surprising things, especially spellcasters. CR's are real hard to gauge. You should continue to toughen up your encounters until you reach a point where you challenge your PC's. Then you know what kind of power you need to throw at them for future encounters. As a DM, it has taken me a while to get a grasp on my PC's power levels. Even in a recent campaign, I handed out magic items that were too good. They ended up walking all over my bad guys. I had to scale the enemies up until I found a point where they could challenge the Pc's. I found that point when our biggest fighter ended up smoked by the vampire fighter he went up against. The PC's were real surprised and didn't support him with healing properly because they were used to him destroying everything he faced.Once I found the power level necessary to challenge them, they became tense during encounters again. They prepared better and didn't expect a cakewalk. The drawback of doing it this way is they may level a little faster. In my case, there level had to catch up to their magic items. Their magic items were making them stronger than they actually were supposed to be. I'm not sure why you are having trouble challenging your PC's. You should really sit down and figure out what is causing them to walk through your encounters. It could be any number of things: tactics, magic items, min/maxed characters, or some other thing you may have overlooked. Once you figure out the reason, then compensate accordingly.</blockquote>

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