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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5918500" data-attributes="member: 22424">I sympathise, but... Simply put, the &quot;big four&quot; races are now sacred cows. Removing them (from core D&amp;D) would be a horrible mistake.Now, that said, I do agree that various settings shouldn't force themselves to always stick with those races - indeed, they should perhaps be quicker to drop them. One of the selling points of Eberron was &quot;everything in D&amp;D has a home in this world&quot;... I'm not sure that's actually a good design goal.While that's true, I would expect an RPG based on any of those individual series to include non-human races. Moreover, if someone were to do a 'generic' sci-fi roleplaying game then I would expect it to include some sort of non-human races. It wouldn't be a deal-breaker if they were absent, of course, but it is something I'd expect to see.(Actually, for a generic sci-fi RPG, I suspect I would expect to see some sort of &quot;race toolkit&quot;...)Now, I'm with you on the &quot;elves, other elves, and other other elves&quot;! IMO, the 4e PHB having three 'elfy' races out of a set of 8 was really quite absurd.But for the rest... no thanks. For the core, provide the classics; with supplements provide lots of others, and I'll sort out what I want and don't want.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5918500, member: 22424"] I sympathise, but... Simply put, the "big four" races are now sacred cows. Removing them (from core D&D) would be a horrible mistake. Now, that said, I do agree that various settings shouldn't force themselves to always stick with those races - indeed, they should perhaps be quicker to drop them. One of the selling points of Eberron was "everything in D&D has a home in this world"... I'm not sure that's actually a good design goal. While that's true, I would expect an RPG based on any of those individual series to include non-human races. Moreover, if someone were to do a 'generic' sci-fi roleplaying game then I would expect it to include some sort of non-human races. It wouldn't be a deal-breaker if they were absent, of course, but it is something I'd expect to see. (Actually, for a generic sci-fi RPG, I suspect I would expect to see some sort of "race toolkit"...) Now, I'm with you on the "elves, other elves, and other other elves"! IMO, the 4e PHB having three 'elfy' races out of a set of 8 was really quite absurd. But for the rest... no thanks. For the core, provide the classics; with supplements provide lots of others, and I'll sort out what I want and don't want. [/QUOTE]

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