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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadeydm" data-source="post: 5968175" data-attributes="member: 44243"><p>I was not 4E bashing (I play it, I have fun playing it, but i don't view it as the pinnacle of D&D that many have suggested it is) or suggesting that another edition does it better or that 5E fixes the problem. I was simply stating that fighters have always gotten the shaft in this regard 4E was no different despite claims to the contrary. I hope 5E does allow someone to be a good fighter and a good negotiator if thats what they want to play. It should be possible and shouldn't cost you any of your fighting ability to do so. IMHO</p></blockquote><p></p>