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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 3060387" data-attributes="member: 8158">Nobody has full, insightful knowledge of what you're thinking, but you seem to think this means others shouldn't critique what you wind up posting. Rather, it places the onus on you to present your position in the best possible manner. True, there are a lot of things that fall under the heading of "looks bad, plays good". I don't happen to regard the warblade as one of them. And it's not a vague, ineffable sensation I can't put my finger on so let's take it on a test run. I know exactly the things I don't like about it, and more importantly I know what the signs of "plays bad" are, so I don't fall for the "black hole" fallacy so often used in these forums. I understand what his moral was, but presenting character mortality as conclusive evidence of class balance is a poor arguement. In fact, among the worst ever.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />   That's an indictment against the arguement though, not the complex human being full of flaws and virtures who issued it.Meh. I could just as easily suggest the reverse of yourself and other individuals in this thread. The ToB be so brilliant, so revolutionary, and so much time has been invested in championing it in one thread after another that it's deficiencies should be glossed over.Oh, that's quite all right--like most people I secretly yearn for someone to pay attention to me and that ol' id doesn't always care if it's approval or disapproval.Well, perhaps you've missed out some posts, as I've discussed more issues with the ToB than the warblade. In general, I don't see the give-and-take at work. Disciplines offer patently superior options over feats, both in terms of versatility and puissance. That is pretty much the point of them, in fact. I find the rebuttal that disciplines should be compared to spells instead of feats to be very flawed due to the disparity in their recoverability. Maneuvers are "super-feats", and the expenditure mechanics don't bridge the gap. Of course, take without give is acceptable if it addresses some extant discrepency, but I do not see how anyone can suggest that a non-caster class such as fighter, barbarian, or rogue are underpowered. Satori, you're familiar with my regard for the resource-management element of the game. Perhaps you're also acquainted with the value I place on the related concept of party roles and interdependency. I've seen that the designation of a mage as high-offense/low-defense is already in question when a holy-keen-greatsword-wielding warrior is going to town. I do not think there needs to be a power boost.</blockquote>

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