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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 3066507" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>Are they balanced or is it bard vs cleric?</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to get dragged in to trying to have me speak on you feelings.</p><p></p><p>But for a simple do the math appraoch it isn't even in the ballpark and it will take vastly more than you saying "is not" to budge me from the detailed analysis I've been through.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Shrug.</p><p>You are wrong.</p><p>A WarbladeX/Fighter1 has plenty of feats and other perks at his disposal and has completely overcome the biggest ranged attack obstacle of the class.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again you seem to find yourself forced to take pieces out of context to make you assessment.</p><p>Yes, the WB's feats are more restricted than the fighter's. </p><p>The fighter's maneuver's a a whole hell of a lot more restricted than the warblade's. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>Seriously, I'm still willing to assume that manuevers + stances for WB = feats for fighter.</p><p>I'm not willing to seriously entertain arguments that the fighter comes out ahead here. </p><p>And so far I've yet to see anyone actually try to say otherwise.</p><p></p><p>So, we have no completely canceled out the fighter's feats.</p><p>You want to say Combat Reflexes is "meh". Ok, fine, we'll agree for sake of argument that it is "meh". It still totally kicks the butt of zip, zero, nada, which is what the fighter has left to hold up against it after the M&S cancel out the fighter's feats.</p><p></p><p>Then the WB get's a few MORE feats, and a nice laundry list of specials, and more sp, and better class skills, and more HP. All up against the fighter's ... NOTHING</p><p></p><p>Context Context Context</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can certainly believe it.</p><p>It is vastly easier to believe that than the idea that soemone seriously considers this class balanced as written.</p><p></p><p>Who said anything about theory?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 3066507, member: 957"] Are they balanced or is it bard vs cleric? I'm not going to get dragged in to trying to have me speak on you feelings. But for a simple do the math appraoch it isn't even in the ballpark and it will take vastly more than you saying "is not" to budge me from the detailed analysis I've been through. Shrug. You are wrong. A WarbladeX/Fighter1 has plenty of feats and other perks at his disposal and has completely overcome the biggest ranged attack obstacle of the class. Again you seem to find yourself forced to take pieces out of context to make you assessment. Yes, the WB's feats are more restricted than the fighter's. The fighter's maneuver's a a whole hell of a lot more restricted than the warblade's. ;) Seriously, I'm still willing to assume that manuevers + stances for WB = feats for fighter. I'm not willing to seriously entertain arguments that the fighter comes out ahead here. And so far I've yet to see anyone actually try to say otherwise. So, we have no completely canceled out the fighter's feats. You want to say Combat Reflexes is "meh". Ok, fine, we'll agree for sake of argument that it is "meh". It still totally kicks the butt of zip, zero, nada, which is what the fighter has left to hold up against it after the M&S cancel out the fighter's feats. Then the WB get's a few MORE feats, and a nice laundry list of specials, and more sp, and better class skills, and more HP. All up against the fighter's ... NOTHING Context Context Context I can certainly believe it. It is vastly easier to believe that than the idea that soemone seriously considers this class balanced as written. Who said anything about theory? [/QUOTE]
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