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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 49005" data-attributes="member: 78">I'd think that this change would greatly weaken classes that get bonus feats.&nbsp; Besides attack, HP, and saves, all a fighter has are a bunch of extra feats.&nbsp; A barbarian could get all the barbarian class benefits, and invest a lot of his gold and XP in feat training and get quite a few bonus feats.&nbsp; It would probably be especially beneficial to train feats at 2nd level, in which case a non fighter could buy a feat for mere 100 XP.&nbsp; For example, take a 1/2 orc barbarian 1.&nbsp; He has Exotic Weapon Spiked chain.&nbsp; In the middle of 1st level, he buys Weapon focus for 100 XP.&nbsp; For a 100 XP penalty, he essentially gained the class ablities of 1 level of barbarian and one level of fighter.&nbsp; At second level he could do the same thing for Power Attack at a 200 XP cost.&nbsp; Compare this guy to a 1/2 orc fighter.&nbsp; The fighter has 2 feats starting, and gets another at second.&nbsp; He matches the barb in feats and the barb has Rage, Fast Movement, better HD, etc.&nbsp; Of course the fighter can buy feats too.&nbsp; However, they cost much more for him.&nbsp; Assuming that each character buys two extra feats over the first two level, the fighter would maintain his feat advantage, thus preserving his class ability.&nbsp; Because of the costs though, the fighter spent twice as much XP.&nbsp; This cost difference doesn't even take into account the fact that the fighter might start taking higher end feats sooner, because he exhausts the entrance feats.&nbsp; He'd be even more behind then.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Victim, post: 49005, member: 78"] I'd think that this change would greatly weaken classes that get bonus feats. Besides attack, HP, and saves, all a fighter has are a bunch of extra feats. A barbarian could get all the barbarian class benefits, and invest a lot of his gold and XP in feat training and get quite a few bonus feats. It would probably be especially beneficial to train feats at 2nd level, in which case a non fighter could buy a feat for mere 100 XP. For example, take a 1/2 orc barbarian 1. He has Exotic Weapon Spiked chain. In the middle of 1st level, he buys Weapon focus for 100 XP. For a 100 XP penalty, he essentially gained the class ablities of 1 level of barbarian and one level of fighter. At second level he could do the same thing for Power Attack at a 200 XP cost. Compare this guy to a 1/2 orc fighter. The fighter has 2 feats starting, and gets another at second. He matches the barb in feats and the barb has Rage, Fast Movement, better HD, etc. Of course the fighter can buy feats too. However, they cost much more for him. Assuming that each character buys two extra feats over the first two level, the fighter would maintain his feat advantage, thus preserving his class ability. Because of the costs though, the fighter spent twice as much XP. This cost difference doesn't even take into account the fact that the fighter might start taking higher end feats sooner, because he exhausts the entrance feats. He'd be even more behind then. [/QUOTE]

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