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<blockquote data-quote="amerigoV" data-source="post: 6790739"><p><strong>On Solo's Death</strong> - While I presume that its permanent, they did do the classic body fade into blackness. Since this is pulp, no one is dead unless you have their rock cold body in a slab next to you. For that matter, even Palpatine could be around given the way he went out.</p><p></p><p>It would not surprise me Solo he shows up on Eps 8 in some flashback scenes that might give more background to the rift in the family (him arguing with Ben, for example).</p><p></p><p>While I really enjoyed the movie, I do wish that if there were going to remake some of the movies they would have redone the Prequels - that was the crap that desperately needed redone, not Eps IV.</p><p></p><p><strong>Rey's Parents</strong></p><p>The movie certainly pushed us to think Luke is Rey's father. Some think its still another Solo kid somehow (basically put into hiding to either keep from Ben/Kylo Ren, or even Kylo Ren hid her from Snoke in a last act of goodness - but this may just be echos of the old EU with the Solo twins). </p><p></p><p>I saw this fun theory today - Rey is Kenobi's granddaughter. Its a pretty good theory:</p><p><a href="https://medium.com/@benostrower/rey-is-a-kenobi-362b5af09849#.6022861td" target="_blank">https://medium.com/@benostrower/rey-is-a-kenobi-362b5af09849#.6022861td</a></p><p></p><p>So I have an even more fun theory - Rey is both Luke's daughter and Kenobi's granddaughter! How? Well, there is this fun theory bouncing around before Eps 7 released in a vain effort to make the prequels tolerable:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.yahoo.com/tv/one-simple-trick-makes-star-221500306.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb" target="_blank">https://www.yahoo.com/tv/one-simple-trick-makes-star-221500306.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb</a></p><p></p><p>So perhaps Luke and Leia are Obi's, and not Anakins. So the big reveal in Eps 8 or 9 is Ben/Kylo Ren is NOT related to Anakin/Vader. He is really named after his grandfather Obi Wan. I can see the scene now - the Ghost of Obi comes before Rey and Kylo Ren "While Anakin was being seduced by the Dark Side, I seduced Padme's dark side."</p><p></p><p>It explains why Vader did not sense Leia was his daughter despite looking like Padme and him torturing her - it was not his daughter. The only reason he even knew about Luke was the last name - an bit of final f-u from Obi Wan ("son of Skywalker" = Padme name, if taken in marriage). That is why he struggled with what to do with Luke - kill him, or turn him (a final revenge to Obi Wan). And it helps make the slaughter of the younglings in Eps 3 more understandable - they represented the abomination(s) in his wife's womb. Finally, how prophetic Obi Wan's line about Darth Vader killing Luke's father turns out to be. Its true, from a certain point of view.</p><p></p><p>Star Wars Game of Thrones <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="amerigoV, post: 6790739"] [B]On Solo's Death[/B] - While I presume that its permanent, they did do the classic body fade into blackness. Since this is pulp, no one is dead unless you have their rock cold body in a slab next to you. For that matter, even Palpatine could be around given the way he went out. It would not surprise me Solo he shows up on Eps 8 in some flashback scenes that might give more background to the rift in the family (him arguing with Ben, for example). While I really enjoyed the movie, I do wish that if there were going to remake some of the movies they would have redone the Prequels - that was the crap that desperately needed redone, not Eps IV. [b]Rey's Parents[/b] The movie certainly pushed us to think Luke is Rey's father. Some think its still another Solo kid somehow (basically put into hiding to either keep from Ben/Kylo Ren, or even Kylo Ren hid her from Snoke in a last act of goodness - but this may just be echos of the old EU with the Solo twins). I saw this fun theory today - Rey is Kenobi's granddaughter. Its a pretty good theory: [url]https://medium.com/@benostrower/rey-is-a-kenobi-362b5af09849#.6022861td[/url] So I have an even more fun theory - Rey is both Luke's daughter and Kenobi's granddaughter! How? Well, there is this fun theory bouncing around before Eps 7 released in a vain effort to make the prequels tolerable: [url]https://www.yahoo.com/tv/one-simple-trick-makes-star-221500306.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb[/url] So perhaps Luke and Leia are Obi's, and not Anakins. So the big reveal in Eps 8 or 9 is Ben/Kylo Ren is NOT related to Anakin/Vader. He is really named after his grandfather Obi Wan. I can see the scene now - the Ghost of Obi comes before Rey and Kylo Ren "While Anakin was being seduced by the Dark Side, I seduced Padme's dark side." It explains why Vader did not sense Leia was his daughter despite looking like Padme and him torturing her - it was not his daughter. The only reason he even knew about Luke was the last name - an bit of final f-u from Obi Wan ("son of Skywalker" = Padme name, if taken in marriage). That is why he struggled with what to do with Luke - kill him, or turn him (a final revenge to Obi Wan). And it helps make the slaughter of the younglings in Eps 3 more understandable - they represented the abomination(s) in his wife's womb. Finally, how prophetic Obi Wan's line about Darth Vader killing Luke's father turns out to be. Its true, from a certain point of view. Star Wars Game of Thrones :) [/QUOTE]
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