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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4722100" data-attributes="member: 82504">I had been thinking that hide was ... more than a little redundant perceptually ie the only reason to keep it might be symetrical number of light and heavy armors ;-), trying to imagine how to bring the Dex in to play.Then I thought of this... Narrow the difference between the light and heavy armor kind of like shown on that chart then allow a stat add for heavy armor ie saying users of heavy armor can use the lower of Strength and Con and users of light armor can add the better of Dex and Wisdom. Couldnt we remove the class/feats for knowing armor...its kind of a weird idea, and I probably dont have it balanced but basically I if the Attributes to influence the choice of armor types and I do keep wanting Strength or Con in there for heavy armor use (remember the current feat requirements) and Wisdom --as in perception-- seems more useful defensively than Intelligence but I would probably have to concede unless I start messing with Reflexes too.I guess this idea rambled off topic it doesnt really doanything to fix the disparagement between heros at higher levels and the monsters they are supposed to be able to face.. But I have always felt that was best solved by adjusting the monsters and the encounters based on how they interacted with my players explicitlyin other words if my players are tactic hounds my monsters need to be more challenging... if my monsters mash the floor too much I can nerf them fairly easily by dropping the encounter levels a little or literally reducing there levels or old Q&D monsters get half hit points method somebody mentiond... .  Due to the effects of player and DM tactics  "I think hard fixes to the math might be inferior to soft ones." and might even be necessary if you fix the math the way you are proposing. Quote:                         Originally Posted by keterys <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-fan-creations-house-rules/252800-my-math-fixes.html#post4719964" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/enw/buttons/viewpost.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a>  So... diverting slightly away from the fix for a moment. How far off base is the following as a statement of goal? It would be better and a more optimal play experience if a normal monster needs... 8 to hit Cloth9 to hit Leather10 to hit Hide or Chain11 to hit Scale12 to hit Plate +2 if it's a Brute, +1 or +2 if target uses a shield, -2 if it's a soldier or artillery </blockquote>

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