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<blockquote data-quote="Rhenny" data-source="post: 6332081" data-attributes="member: 18333">In 5e Surprise is really powerful.I'd really limit how often monsters surprise the party even if the adventure calls for perception checks.&nbsp; Use surprise for when it is essential for the story (otherwise, let one of the little buggers step on a twig and make a little noise at the last second...or give the party a 2nd chance to act after the enemy gets 1 or 2 shots in).On the other hand, I like that the power of surprise encourages players to play stealthfully and plan as they explore new areas.The PDF rules have a great sentence about surprise that needs to be taken seriously:&quot;Surprising Foes. If the adventurers encounter ahostile creature or group, the DM determines whetherthe adventurers or their foes might be surprised whencombat erupts.&quot; p. 65So, even if it later goes on to call for stealth or perception rolls vs. passive, it is ultimately up to the DM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rhenny, post: 6332081, member: 18333"] In 5e Surprise is really powerful. I'd really limit how often monsters surprise the party even if the adventure calls for perception checks. Use surprise for when it is essential for the story (otherwise, let one of the little buggers step on a twig and make a little noise at the last second...or give the party a 2nd chance to act after the enemy gets 1 or 2 shots in). On the other hand, I like that the power of surprise encourages players to play stealthfully and plan as they explore new areas. The PDF rules have a great sentence about surprise that needs to be taken seriously: "Surprising Foes. If the adventurers encounter a hostile creature or group, the DM determines whether the adventurers or their foes might be surprised when combat erupts." p. 65 So, even if it later goes on to call for stealth or perception rolls vs. passive, it is ultimately up to the DM. [/QUOTE]

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