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<blockquote data-quote="Lidgar" data-source="post: 6332253" data-attributes="member: 28334">Last night a friend an I &quot;tested&quot; several combat situations with a 1st level fighter, cleric, wizard and rogue. One objective (outside of just getting to know the rules) was to do a kind of stress test - to find the TPK breaking point.First battle was with 4 goblins and an orc. Wiped them out almost effortlessly. Poor buggers never had a chance.Second battle was with an ogre. Predictable result there - one character (cleric) goes down before the remainder of the party can take him down.Third encounter was with an ogre and a nothic. Went down to the wire - cleric and nothic left standing, with the cleric down to 1 hp and the nothic had 3. Nothic used its necrotic gaze ability and the cleric (who had some lucky rolls throughout the encounter) finally failed his save. TPK.So, all in all, felt 1st level characters are at least as &quot;robust&quot; as 3e PC's - if not more so. While hp are similar, damage output seemed definitely higher, which brought down foes quickly and shortened battles. All changes we liked. It was also all done gridless - which I have not done forever and a day. It was kind of funny realizing we could heal a down foe in the middle of combat - and then the prone character could get up and attack - all without the dreaded concern over positioning and AoO's.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lidgar, post: 6332253, member: 28334"] Last night a friend an I "tested" several combat situations with a 1st level fighter, cleric, wizard and rogue. One objective (outside of just getting to know the rules) was to do a kind of stress test - to find the TPK breaking point. First battle was with 4 goblins and an orc. Wiped them out almost effortlessly. Poor buggers never had a chance. Second battle was with an ogre. Predictable result there - one character (cleric) goes down before the remainder of the party can take him down. Third encounter was with an ogre and a nothic. Went down to the wire - cleric and nothic left standing, with the cleric down to 1 hp and the nothic had 3. Nothic used its necrotic gaze ability and the cleric (who had some lucky rolls throughout the encounter) finally failed his save. TPK. So, all in all, felt 1st level characters are at least as "robust" as 3e PC's - if not more so. While hp are similar, damage output seemed definitely higher, which brought down foes quickly and shortened battles. All changes we liked. It was also all done gridless - which I have not done forever and a day. It was kind of funny realizing we could heal a down foe in the middle of combat - and then the prone character could get up and attack - all without the dreaded concern over positioning and AoO's. [/QUOTE]

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