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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6341340" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>A perfect example! See folks, it's both /too early/ AND /too late/ to criticize anything. Ever. Seriously, there are better ways to defend 5e than stonewalling. </p><p></p><p>The OP pops up and complains the game is too deadly. There are obvious, easily implemented solutions, such as starting at 3rd level. Which is fine for his complaint.</p><p></p><p>But what about the converse? 5e /does/, by decoupling character advancement from the expectation of wealth and magic items, tantalizingly open up the possibility of 'gritty' play at all levels, yet, thanks to bounded accuracy, HD, overnight healing, magical healing, and rapid hp growth, snatches it away again once you're out of the lowest levels. And, the solutions to that are not so simple nor obvious.</p><p></p><p>While I don't expect modularity out of the basic set, I would expect the stage to be set for modularity - I'd also have expected to see it in the playtest. That it's still in the vaporware stage at this late date is troubling. I'm patient enough wait and see what they finally come out with - but I'm also realist enough to note that it's not looking good. Of course, I may yet be pleasantly surprised. It's happened before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6341340, member: 996"] A perfect example! See folks, it's both /too early/ AND /too late/ to criticize anything. Ever. Seriously, there are better ways to defend 5e than stonewalling. The OP pops up and complains the game is too deadly. There are obvious, easily implemented solutions, such as starting at 3rd level. Which is fine for his complaint. But what about the converse? 5e /does/, by decoupling character advancement from the expectation of wealth and magic items, tantalizingly open up the possibility of 'gritty' play at all levels, yet, thanks to bounded accuracy, HD, overnight healing, magical healing, and rapid hp growth, snatches it away again once you're out of the lowest levels. And, the solutions to that are not so simple nor obvious. While I don't expect modularity out of the basic set, I would expect the stage to be set for modularity - I'd also have expected to see it in the playtest. That it's still in the vaporware stage at this late date is troubling. I'm patient enough wait and see what they finally come out with - but I'm also realist enough to note that it's not looking good. Of course, I may yet be pleasantly surprised. It's happened before. [/QUOTE]
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