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<blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 1610254" data-attributes="member: 1190"><p>Half orcs: +2 Str FC: Barbarian. The barbarian's rage abilities are based upon Constitution so no bonus.</p><p></p><p>Dwarves: A fighter might find the +2 Con useful, but so would anyone else. No fighter abilities are based on Constitution.</p><p></p><p>Halflings: see my above post on this one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And why then don't they gain a bonus to intelligence? If they spend so much time studying magic (to the point where it is virtually stated that most elves know some magic) why is their bonus in Dex? I'd say its because the ptb felt that a bonus to Intelligence would make anyone who wanted to play a wizard play an elf.</p><p></p><p>Lets look at this by a list</p><p>Dwarf = Con = Fighter</p><p>Elf = Dex = Wizard</p><p>Gnome = Con = Bard</p><p>Halfling = Dex = Rogue</p><p>Half-orc = Str = Barbarian</p><p></p><p>It can be assumed that all classes desire Con for HP and Int for skill points. The following are a break down of the desireable stats for the different classes.</p><p>Barbarian = Con (rage ability)+Str (melee)+Dex (AC)+Wis (survival)</p><p>Bard = Cha (perform abilities)</p><p>Cleric = Wis (spells)+Cha (turn undead)</p><p>Druid = Wis (spells)</p><p>Fighter = Str (melee)+Dex (ranged+AC)</p><p>Monk = Wis (AC)+Str (melee)</p><p>Paladin = Cha (most class abilities)+Str (melee)+Wis (spells)</p><p>Ranger =Str (melee)+Dex (ranged)+Wis (survival & spells)</p><p>Rogue =Dex (skills, ranged, AC)</p><p>Sorcerer = Cha (spells) +Int (Spellcraft & knowledge arcana)</p><p>Wizard = Int (spells + spellcraft & knowledge)</p><p></p><p>Especially with Int, Wis, and Cha, an extra +2 in these can be very attractive at 1st level. It can mean the difference between 1 1st level bonus spell and 2 1st level bonus spells (18 vs 20).</p><p></p><p>Plus, conceptually, I think that I would rather play a race that doesn't seem so pidgen-holed. It is lame, IMHO, to have a race that as soon as you see one you can (with little risk of being wrong) say "That is a member of class X because what sort of moron in that race is going to give up the benefits they gain."</p><p></p><p>YMMV</p><p>DC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DreamChaser, post: 1610254, member: 1190"] Half orcs: +2 Str FC: Barbarian. The barbarian's rage abilities are based upon Constitution so no bonus. Dwarves: A fighter might find the +2 Con useful, but so would anyone else. No fighter abilities are based on Constitution. Halflings: see my above post on this one. And why then don't they gain a bonus to intelligence? If they spend so much time studying magic (to the point where it is virtually stated that most elves know some magic) why is their bonus in Dex? I'd say its because the ptb felt that a bonus to Intelligence would make anyone who wanted to play a wizard play an elf. Lets look at this by a list Dwarf = Con = Fighter Elf = Dex = Wizard Gnome = Con = Bard Halfling = Dex = Rogue Half-orc = Str = Barbarian It can be assumed that all classes desire Con for HP and Int for skill points. The following are a break down of the desireable stats for the different classes. Barbarian = Con (rage ability)+Str (melee)+Dex (AC)+Wis (survival) Bard = Cha (perform abilities) Cleric = Wis (spells)+Cha (turn undead) Druid = Wis (spells) Fighter = Str (melee)+Dex (ranged+AC) Monk = Wis (AC)+Str (melee) Paladin = Cha (most class abilities)+Str (melee)+Wis (spells) Ranger =Str (melee)+Dex (ranged)+Wis (survival & spells) Rogue =Dex (skills, ranged, AC) Sorcerer = Cha (spells) +Int (Spellcraft & knowledge arcana) Wizard = Int (spells + spellcraft & knowledge) Especially with Int, Wis, and Cha, an extra +2 in these can be very attractive at 1st level. It can mean the difference between 1 1st level bonus spell and 2 1st level bonus spells (18 vs 20). Plus, conceptually, I think that I would rather play a race that doesn't seem so pidgen-holed. It is lame, IMHO, to have a race that as soon as you see one you can (with little risk of being wrong) say "That is a member of class X because what sort of moron in that race is going to give up the benefits they gain." YMMV DC [/QUOTE]
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