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<blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 2213585" data-attributes="member: 1241">the caster level probably needs to be higher than HD, like grigs and pixies.How about #22?LOL, it sure does... well, I was going to give it Great Fortitude as a bonus feat, guess I will just kill Power Attack instead.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />are you sure that's enough to merit a HD*2 CR though?I wish I had my books with me so I could look up those penalties...I'm willing to assume a wizard in the party.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> or at least one magic weapon between the party members.&nbsp; As for the Attack line listing, again without my books I can't really compare to say the wraith or allip.yikes!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; but if I normalized it a bit, 3 might be OK?how about #41?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BOZ, post: 2213585, member: 1241"] the caster level probably needs to be higher than HD, like grigs and pixies. How about #22? LOL, it sure does... well, I was going to give it Great Fortitude as a bonus feat, guess I will just kill Power Attack instead. :) are you sure that's enough to merit a HD*2 CR though? I wish I had my books with me so I could look up those penalties... I'm willing to assume a wizard in the party. ;) or at least one magic weapon between the party members. As for the Attack line listing, again without my books I can't really compare to say the wraith or allip. yikes! :) but if I normalized it a bit, 3 might be OK? how about #41? [/QUOTE]

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