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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 2293049" data-attributes="member: 1241">how bout this then:Aura of Good Omen (Su): A CREATURE continually radiates an aura of good luck that affects creatures in a 30-foot radius. All good-aligned creatures within range (including the CREATURE itself) gain a +2 luck bonus to all attack rolls, damage rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and saving throws (these modifiers are not included in the CREATURE's statistics above).The aura is so strong that it will persist for 1d4 days after a CREATURE is killed.  If the CREATURE is still alive, the effects of the aura will remain with an affected creature for 1d4 days after moving out of range if the creature succeeds on a DC 15 Charisma check.sorry - i noticed that after i posted.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  but eh, you reminded me to do it myself.#50I do know that incorporeal creatures use their Dex mods for melee attacks.  It has a BAB of +7, and a Dex mod of +2.  however, it also has a -1 size mod, thus both melee and range attacks should be at +8.One issue I had was that it doesn't seem like an incorporeal weapon would harm living creatures (unless they're just the same as ghost touch weapons at that point)?  Maybe the "club" and "rock" attacks would make more sense as incorporeal touch attacks that deal damage and drain Con - making them work more like similar undead creatures.  Thus:Attack: Incorporeal greatclub +8 melee touch (2d8 plus 1d6 Constitution drain) or incorporeal rock +8 ranged touch (2d8 plus 1d4 Constitution drain)Opinion - creatures with a land speed of 40 get a +4 bonus to Jump checks.  Given that this one is incorporeal, should I bother mentioning this?Constitution Drain (Su): Living creatures hit by a UNDEAD's incorporeal club must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC 17) or suffer 1 d6 points of permanent Constitution score drain. Those hit by a UNDEAD's incorporeal throwing rocks must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC 17) or suffer 1d4 points of permanent Constitution drain. Unlike many undead that drain ability points, UNDEAD cannot create spawn.I totally get where you're coming from with removing the saving throw.  Note however, that a wraith allows for a save - it is 5HD and CR 5.  Although, you have some creatures like Allips that deal automatic Wis drain (but no physical damage) and shadows deal automatic Str drain in the same manner.Incorporeal Rock Catching (Su): UNDEAD can catch Small, Medium-size, or Large incorporeal rocks or projectiles. Once per round, a UNDEAD that would normally be hit by an incorporeal rock can make a Reflex save to catch it as a free action; DC 1 5 for Small objects, DC 20 for Medium-sized, and DC 25 for Large ones. The UNDEAD must be ready for and aware of the attack. Because of the brutal nature of UNDEAD, this ability is more useful than it might otherwise be since violence frequently erupts between them.Incorporeal Rock Throwing (Su): UNDEAD are accomplished rock throwers and gain a +1 racial bonus to attack rolls using them as a weapon. The rocks thrown by a UNDEAD are incorporeal, and the UNDEAD can produce them out of thin air.These abilities are similarly weird, but appear to have more to do with fighting each other - they are very contentious beings and don't even get along with each other.</blockquote>

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