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<blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 2096482" data-attributes="member: 1241">bwah!&nbsp; i've been lied to!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :o"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" />&nbsp; oh well, for this creature it is irrelevant since the two ability scores are equal.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />as for our mystery creature #53, i have sent on my question to Joe &amp; Suzi.&nbsp; it appears the original creature type was indeed Shapechanger, and it also had plant traits as an add-on.&nbsp; so, i'm trying to persuade them to change it to the Plant type with Shapechanger subtype.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />given that, i think your rewrite of Alternate Form should be able to stand as-is (since they change into humanoids), though i don't know that i would remove the vulnerabilty to fire - and for that matter, i don't know that i would remove the sap ability either.maybe i should just move that weird stuff in the stat block into the alternate form description? (i.e., if it assumes a Medium humanoid form it loses the size penalty to AC &amp; attacks, and space reach becomes 5/5)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BOZ, post: 2096482, member: 1241"] bwah! i've been lied to! :o oh well, for this creature it is irrelevant since the two ability scores are equal. ;) as for our mystery creature #53, i have sent on my question to Joe & Suzi. it appears the original creature type was indeed Shapechanger, and it also had plant traits as an add-on. so, i'm trying to persuade them to change it to the Plant type with Shapechanger subtype. ;) given that, i think your rewrite of Alternate Form should be able to stand as-is (since they change into humanoids), though i don't know that i would remove the vulnerabilty to fire - and for that matter, i don't know that i would remove the sap ability either. maybe i should just move that weird stuff in the stat block into the alternate form description? (i.e., if it assumes a Medium humanoid form it loses the size penalty to AC & attacks, and space reach becomes 5/5) [/QUOTE]

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