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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 7882809" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>Glad it helped. A lot of it will seem obvious once you read it. But as a writer, we have to consciously think about that crap and do it that way. OR, change it to be that way. As some famous writer said, "the first draft is you telling yourself the story." The implies the next draft is a massive rewrite to present it in a way that uses the secret tricks of the trade to make readers like it. The more you can do it the "right" way naturally, the less rework you have to do. But dialogue isn't hard to tweak, so don't sweat doing it the old way.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p>Some other stuff for you to think about (and consider your answers in comparison to Game of Thrones and The Expanse):</p><p></p><p>How many POV's does each book of those series have (this may help you shrink and limit the # of groups/POVs you manage in your book)?</p><p></p><p>What is the Theme of your book?</p><p></p><p>What is the goal of each character?</p><p></p><p>What is the core belief of each character (we're not talking religion)?</p><p>Here's a podcast interview with the authors of The Expanse that talks about this concept and how the char's belief was challenged:</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-guardian-books-podcast/id168200814?i=1000458530547" target="_blank">The Guardian Books podcast: When imagining our future, what can sci-fi teach us? – books podcast on Apple Podcasts</a> </p><p></p><p>What is the Story Question of the book?</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://blog.karenwoodward.org/2012/06/jim-butcher-how-to-write-story.html[/URL]</p><p></p><p><em>WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS</em>, <em>YOUR PROTAGONIST</em> <em>PURSUES A GOAL</em>. But will he succeed when <em>ANTAGONIST PROVIDES OPPOSITION</em>? </p><p></p><p>Since you've got multiple factions, try writing the question for all (ex Expanse is about the proto-molecule) and for the individual factions.</p><p></p><p>What differentiates each group from each other?</p><p>This may help answer the 2 ship crews or one problem you asked about. We got a monk, a politician, a ship crew. Two of pretty much the same thing is only useful if it provides contrast.</p><p>--</p><p>Now with all those answered, Is Willhelm a good protagonist? Somebody who's gonna have a complete arc to help answer the story question?</p><p></p><p>Who on the Pride ship can fill those shoes? That's your MC for that group. Make the camera follow them and help us like that person so we care about them achieving their goal. Make them react to the concerns about this part of space. The horror of what Stabby has done, and losing the other character.</p><p></p><p>Same thing for each other group (again, I can't remember them, my head is full).</p><p></p><p>---</p><p>See if any of that helps you tighten up your plan for these factions and characters, with regards to POV and organizing this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 7882809, member: 8835"] Glad it helped. A lot of it will seem obvious once you read it. But as a writer, we have to consciously think about that crap and do it that way. OR, change it to be that way. As some famous writer said, "the first draft is you telling yourself the story." The implies the next draft is a massive rewrite to present it in a way that uses the secret tricks of the trade to make readers like it. The more you can do it the "right" way naturally, the less rework you have to do. But dialogue isn't hard to tweak, so don't sweat doing it the old way. --- Some other stuff for you to think about (and consider your answers in comparison to Game of Thrones and The Expanse): How many POV's does each book of those series have (this may help you shrink and limit the # of groups/POVs you manage in your book)? What is the Theme of your book? What is the goal of each character? What is the core belief of each character (we're not talking religion)? Here's a podcast interview with the authors of The Expanse that talks about this concept and how the char's belief was challenged: [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-guardian-books-podcast/id168200814?i=1000458530547"]The Guardian Books podcast: When imagining our future, what can sci-fi teach us? – books podcast on Apple Podcasts[/URL] What is the Story Question of the book? [URL unfurl="true"]https://blog.karenwoodward.org/2012/06/jim-butcher-how-to-write-story.html[/URL] [I]WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS[/I], [I]YOUR PROTAGONIST[/I] [I]PURSUES A GOAL[/I]. But will he succeed when [I]ANTAGONIST PROVIDES OPPOSITION[/I]? Since you've got multiple factions, try writing the question for all (ex Expanse is about the proto-molecule) and for the individual factions. What differentiates each group from each other? This may help answer the 2 ship crews or one problem you asked about. We got a monk, a politician, a ship crew. Two of pretty much the same thing is only useful if it provides contrast. -- Now with all those answered, Is Willhelm a good protagonist? Somebody who's gonna have a complete arc to help answer the story question? Who on the Pride ship can fill those shoes? That's your MC for that group. Make the camera follow them and help us like that person so we care about them achieving their goal. Make them react to the concerns about this part of space. The horror of what Stabby has done, and losing the other character. Same thing for each other group (again, I can't remember them, my head is full). --- See if any of that helps you tighten up your plan for these factions and characters, with regards to POV and organizing this. [/QUOTE]
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